Re: 200r bubble i aint never scared.
 

This is so bad. It's one thing if u have like 5-6 bb's left but w/ 10 bb's u can find so many better spots.

Re: 200r bubble i aint never scared.
 

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This is so bad. It's one thing if u have like 5-6 bb's left but w/ 10 bb's u can find so many better spots.

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This is far from bad given that the shorty already busted. It is significantly +cEV if zang is shoving ATC, which is pretty likely imo.

The call doesnt become breakeven cEVwise until zang's range is ~60%.

Re: 200r bubble i aint never scared.
 

Assuming Zang shoved before the 2bb stack busted at the other table
Assuming Zang knew there was a 2bb stack at another table
Assuming Zang will shove any two cards because of the first two statements

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this is fine

Re: 200r bubble i aint never scared.
 

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Assuming Zang shoved before the 2bb stack busted at the other table
Assuming Zang knew there was a 2bb stack at another table
Assuming Zang will shove any two cards because of the first two statements

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this is fine

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QFT

Re: 200r bubble i aint never scared.
 

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Assuming Zang shoved before the 2bb stack busted at the other table
Assuming Zang knew there was a 2bb stack at another table
Assuming Zang will shove any two cards because of the first two statements

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this is fine

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Sometimes the stars do align. Thanks for all the responses. He had A5c and i ended up winning and he started bitching in the chat afterwards which is the only reason i was wondering since i really dont think just because he happened to have me beat in this specific instance doesnt mean hes not shoving any 2 cards. Plus worst case scenario this call is for metagame purposes and ppl will never shove light on me again. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: 200r bubble i aint never scared.
 

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some guy has like 2 antes left at a diferent table.

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this means you need to fold(im assuming you mean by two antes that he has less than a bb left, if you meant he had less than 2 rounds left than it is a lil different but still has to be accounted for)

Re: 200r bubble i aint never scared.
 

oh i should read the whole thread, but I still think that like others have said everything has had to happened exactly the way you are hoping that it happens, which isnt 100%, so i still really dont like the call

Re: 200r bubble i aint never scared.
 

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oh i should read the whole thread, but I still think that like others have said everything has had to happened exactly the way you are hoping that it happens, which isnt 100%, so i still really dont like the call

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yea thats the point, hes folding if the shortie wasnt knocked out.

Re: 200r bubble i aint never scared.
 

When I first saw this hh I literally laughed out loud and for a second I even thought you altered it. After looking at it more carefully, I actually like it and think while this is always going to be marginal, it might actually be +EV. I do have two potential issues, one is that Zang being the baller he is might not be paying attention to the bubble situation as he prob. doesn't care too much especially if he's playing multiple tables and he may just look down at a 92o and fold w/o realizing he can push profitably. And obviously you need him to be pushing that hand and hands alike for this call to be good in the slightest. The 2nd concern is you said that even if the play isn't great it will give you a crazy image of calling light and therefore no one will shove on you light. This is meaningless imo because no one remembers anything online anyway and your past history should have a lot more effect on how people play against you then this one light call vs. the laggiest and probably craziest player at the table.

You're still my hero regardless.

Re: 200r bubble i aint never scared.
 

BTHERE YOU ARE MY HERO AND I LOVE THE CALL