In a HU match when is it acceptable to request a reload?
 

Lets assume its a nice guy and your playing 50/100 for a couple hours and you have him down to below 600... is it impolite to ask him to reload at this point?

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How smart is it to play under 6bb..
Raise all in every hand until he reloads? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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it's never acceptable. Bad etiquette IMO

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How smart is it to play under 6bb..
Raise all in every hand until he reloads? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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How smart is it to play under 6bb..
Raise all in every hand until he reloads? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Iv had a guy go above to 2buyins form less than that!

Im very interested in what comes out of this thread.

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he wont get any decent repsonses because as usual if in doubt post in NVG

even the fact there is a heads up sub-forum seemed to have baffled the OP

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whenever you think their small stack reduces your edge too much.

i don't like getting in dumb coinflips or 60/40 situations where ppl push preflop for like 100 bucks. when they double up it completely changes the match b/c i get really angry and they get more confident.

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whenever you think their small stack reduces your edge too much.

i don't like getting in dumb coinflips or 60/40 situations where ppl push preflop for like 100 bucks. when they double up it completely changes the match b/c i get really angry and they get more confident.

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lol

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i always request a reload around 20bb...it may be douchey but there's no way i'm giving some fish a shot at 200 of my big blinds for 20 of his. i've lost 5-6 buyins to fish before who originally buy in for the minimum

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I don't request a reload, I just sit out. Even the bad players know why you're sitting out and most will reload on their own.

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it's never acceptable. Bad etiquette IMO

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when your opponent is down to $0

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i always request a reload around 20bb...it may be douchey but there's no way i'm giving some fish a shot at 200 of my big blinds for 20 of his.

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I'm not sure I follow this logic. Aren't you playing table stakes?

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i've lost 5-6 buyins to fish before who originally buy in for the minimum

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Wait, who's the fish in this story?

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meh I am prolly -EV with short stacks so I have no problem asking them to reload at any time.

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I sit out and request reload when opponent has less than 20 bb... its jus -ev otherwise

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Samo won't play anyone for less than 50bb's(1k).

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ask for a reload whenever you want, its not bad etiquette.. why should you risk 20k to win 600 in the example above.. if i start out playing a guy with full stacks and he gets short i sit out and say reload please, and ill usually quit if he wont (unless hes really bad) and by the same token i would never complain if someone sat out on me when i got short

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meh I am prolly -EV with short stacks so I have no problem asking them to reload at any time.

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man this is so true, sometimes when they get to 25 bbs i'm just giving them the next 25 so they can play with at least 50, but they're too bad to leave and i need to drag them on incase they go nuts to rebuy 100 or w.e

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yesterday I had a guy go from 20bb-400bb-busto against me, and lose anotehr 150 reloading, it was cool

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yesterday I had a guy go from 20bb-400bb-busto against me, and lose anotehr 150 reloading, it was cool

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whenever you think their small stack reduces your edge too much.

i don't like getting in dumb coinflips or 60/40 situations where ppl push preflop for like 100 bucks. when they double up it completely changes the match b/c i get really angry and they get more confident.

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exactly. and when it happens 2 or 3 more times it just completely messes with your head

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I have no problem doing it if I'm sitting at the table and someone tries to play me HU with 20BB or something foolish. I usually wont start a HU game unless they bring a minimum of 60BB to the table. When you have been playing HU for a while though, and are already up in the match, I think it's pretty bad etiquette to ask someone to max out their reload after you've busted them a few times. It gets into awkward areas of BR management, etc and I would rather just take the edge I have being up already rather than make someone feel embarrassed about already losing a lot to me and stop playing outright.

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I won't sit with people that only have 20bb or so at the table, and if I do, its only to ask if they'd like to play with full stacks...if not, I don't play. Depending on the player, the minimum I'll usually sit with is 40bb. I think I'm with gordo tho that 60bb is my normal requirement to play HU, I go below that if I know the player to be bad and more importantly weak/tight. This goes for HU PLO btw.

If the match has been going on awhile and I've stacked the player a few times then I always ask that they keep their stack topped off. Since he'd been doing it before, I expect him to keep it up, and if he doesnt want to then I don't see the problem in quitting the game or sitting out until he reloads.

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DAMN, beat me to it.

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he wont get any decent repsonses because as usual if in doubt post in NVG

even the fact there is a heads up sub-forum seemed to have baffled the OP

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on the contrary i got some great responses here

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whenever you think their small stack reduces your edge too much.

i don't like getting in dumb coinflips or 60/40 situations where ppl push preflop for like 100 bucks. when they double up it completely changes the match b/c i get really angry and they get more confident.

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lol

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obv not an omaha player

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just sit out for 30 seonds.

if he says ???? say "i can't play vs short"
if he says nothing, maybe ask politely.

IMO its poor etiquette, but still widely acceptable and understood. Especially if you have been going at it for 1+ hour.

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I hate getting hit and run on and its ben my experience that if an opponent isnt prepared to reload then he was prepared to hit and run me. I make it standard to ask for a reload at any time a player goes below 5BB. I might be losing value long term but my tilt factor after he goes from 500 to 5K when I expose myself to 10-20K at any time is seriously just dumb imo.

-Crazy Mike

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if he didnt start off short then I think its douchy to ask him to reload

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it's never acceptable. Bad etiquette IMO

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loool so wasting time flipping for 6BB every hand is more important to you than making money?

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it's never acceptable. Bad etiquette IMO

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loool so wasting time flipping for 6BB every hand is more important to you than making money?

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Well you lose four of those in a row, and you aren't playing for 6 BB's anymore. If you win any of those, he reloads then. I don't see why its wasting time.

So somebody loses most, but not all of their money to you, and now you're going to stop playing them because its a waste of time...nice.

But that's fine, if I'm on the short end of that stick, I'll just go donk off my next rebuy to somebody else.

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it's never acceptable. Bad etiquette IMO

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loool so wasting time flipping for 6BB every hand is more important to you than making money?

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Well you lose four of those in a row, and you aren't playing for 6 BB's anymore. If you win an y of those, he reloads then. I don't see why its wasting time.

So somebody loses most, but not all of their money to you, and now you're going to stop playing them because its a waste of time...nice.

But that's fine, if I'm on the short end of that stick, I'll just go donk off my next rebuy to somebody else.

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THE REASON YOU TELL PEOPLE TO RELOAD IS SO THEY DONT WIN FOUR IN A ROW DUCY?

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I hate getting hit and run on and its ben my experience that if an opponent isnt prepared to reload then he was prepared to hit and run me. I make it standard to ask for a reload at any time a player goes below 5BB. I might be losing value long term but my tilt factor after he goes from 500 to 5K when I expose myself to 10-20K at any time is seriously just dumb imo.

-Crazy Mike

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Yah, I played you 50/100 on UB once and after spending the first 10 mins asking if i was a bot you proceeded to clean me out quick. AND you stayed till i was broke.
lol :-)

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it's never acceptable. Bad etiquette IMO

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loool so wasting time flipping for 6BB every hand is more important to you than making money?

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Well you lose four of those in a row, and you aren't playing for 6 BB's anymore. If you win an y of those, he reloads then. I don't see why its wasting time.

So somebody loses most, but not all of their money to you, and now you're going to stop playing them because its a waste of time...nice.

But that's fine, if I'm on the short end of that stick, I'll just go donk off my next rebuy to somebody else.

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THE REASON YOU TELL PEOPLE TO RELOAD IS SO THEY DONT WIN FOUR IN A ROW DUCY?

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hahaha

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im glad to hear a few people i respect say there -ev below 20bbs, i find it hard to beat 20bbs stack without it just commin down to me waiting till i shove ks-9s into their AA's after 2 hands

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it's never acceptable. Bad etiquette IMO

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loool so wasting time flipping for 6BB every hand is more important to you than making money?

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Well you lose four of those in a row, and you aren't playing for 6 BB's anymore. If you win an y of those, he reloads then. I don't see why its wasting time.

So somebody loses most, but not all of their money to you, and now you're going to stop playing them because its a waste of time...nice.

But that's fine, if I'm on the short end of that stick, I'll just go donk off my next rebuy to somebody else.

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THE REASON YOU TELL PEOPLE TO RELOAD IS SO THEY DONT WIN FOUR IN A ROW DUCY?

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Um...is it because you prefer getting stacked when you lose all-ins?

Let me do the math...they reload, they can stack you by winning two all-ins. If they don't reload, in order to stack you they have to win six all-ins in a row.

Ah Yes! Your point is perfectly cle---um no, no its not.

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it's never acceptable. Bad etiquette IMO

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loool so wasting time flipping for 6BB every hand is more important to you than making money?

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Well you lose four of those in a row, and you aren't playing for 6 BB's anymore. If you win an y of those, he reloads then. I don't see why its wasting time.

So somebody loses most, but not all of their money to you, and now you're going to stop playing them because its a waste of time...nice.

But that's fine, if I'm on the short end of that stick, I'll just go donk off my next rebuy to somebody else.

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THE REASON YOU TELL PEOPLE TO RELOAD IS SO THEY DONT WIN FOUR IN A ROW DUCY?

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Um...is it because you prefer getting stacked when you lose all-ins?

Let me do the math...they reload, they can stack you by winning two all-ins. If they don't reload, in order to stack you they have to win six all-ins in a row.

Ah Yes! Your point is perfectly cle---um no, no its not.

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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. so amazingly retarded.

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i actually hunt out people sitting alone short, and try to convince them to buy full. Am i a bad person?

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If he brought 100BBs to play you and you nail him, taking him down to 6...why does he have to reload. He came to play with 100. His 100 isn't finished.

I can understand not wanting to start a match against a short-stack...totally within your right to not play. But if you've taken him down from a full buy-in (or whatever you consider sufficient to start, keep playing.