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WhiteKnight 09-10-2007 03:29 PM

Flopped A Flush But I Have My Doubts...
 
Typical 4/8 live fullring game.
Hero raises 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] OTB after 4 limpers, blinds both call (7 handed).

Flop: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (14 SB)
Checked to MP who bets, a caller or two, and Hero raises. Blind 3-bets, EP caps. 1 caller and Hero calls (4 handed).

Turn: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (~17 BB)
Blind bets, EP raises, MP calls, Hero folds (3 handed).

KitCloudkicker 09-10-2007 03:38 PM

Re: Flopped A Flush But I Have My Doubts...
 
dont fold. river the 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

preflop is fine imo. but im a lagtard on the button and if you want to limp thats good too. just dont fold

strategery 09-10-2007 03:40 PM

Re: Flopped A Flush But I Have My Doubts...
 
Raise turn, raise non-spade river. Villains could easily have a 4 flush, set, 2 pair, pair, etc. If they have a higher flush, oh well next hand.

Xhad 09-10-2007 03:44 PM

Re: Flopped A Flush But I Have My Doubts...
 
Wow that sucks. Given that this is a B&M it's pretty safe to assume you're up againt ranges like [set, flush] and [flush] in which case you could barely call if all-in. As it stands you're going to have to call a river bet and maybe a turn 3bet if you call, so ok fold I guess. I would still hate it though.

EDIT:

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Raise turn, raise non-spade river. Villains could easily have a 4 flush, set, 2 pair, pair, etc.

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This reeks of "putting my opponents on only hands that I beat because I want an excuse to raise"

WhiteKnight 09-10-2007 04:11 PM

Re: Flopped A Flush But I Have My Doubts...
 
[ QUOTE ]
This reeks of "putting my opponents on only hands that I beat because I want an excuse to raise"

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Maybe just a little. Check/cap kind of smelled like a slowplayed flush, most likely larger than the one I'm holding.

edit: I'll eventually post the outcome of this hand, but I wouldn't mind a little more conversation first.

Xhad 09-10-2007 04:28 PM

Re: Flopped A Flush But I Have My Doubts...
 
White, I was talking to the guy before that suggested maniac spewing because apparently your opponents cannot possibly have a flush when they're willingly putting in crazy amounts of bets on this board.

Frond 09-10-2007 04:41 PM

Re: Flopped A Flush But I Have My Doubts...
 
5 spades already accounted for leaving 8 left in the deck. 3 opps left. What are the chances the other 2-3 have flopped flushes? Poss but not likely

Anything on the other players at all?

Xhad 09-10-2007 04:53 PM

Re: Flopped A Flush But I Have My Doubts...
 
[ QUOTE ]
5 spades already accounted for leaving 8 left in the deck. 3 opps left. What are the chances the other 2-3 have flopped flushes? Poss but not likely

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This gets less and less relevant the more your opponents continue to see all this action and not care.

TheCount212 09-10-2007 05:01 PM

Re: Flopped A Flush But I Have My Doubts...
 
Tough spot. I hate folding SF draws, but here we have two players who are going crazy. How long have you been at the table? Have blind and EP shown any maniacal tendencies? Blind betting out tells me that either (a) he is a complete moron or (b) he has the nut flush. You're in the proverbial sandwich here, and so can't fault you one bit for folding your likely one-outer. Hope you got up and left the table to avoid see the river just in case =]

Frond 09-10-2007 05:07 PM

Re: Flopped A Flush But I Have My Doubts...
 
This hand calls for the likes of a Bernie


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