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sergsz 01-28-2007 08:12 AM

TPGK against 3 barrels from a LAG
 
Villain is 26/25/6.3

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $169.20
UTG+1: $329.75
CO: $187
Button: $32
SB: $254.75
hero: $198.90

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $8</font>, 3 folds, hero calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($17, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $12</font>, hero calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($41, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $29</font>, hero calls.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($99, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $72</font>, hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $72 returned to UTG+1.

Results:
Final pot: $99

1) Is this a raise-or-fold situation preflop, or is a call fine here once a while against this type of villain? If it's raise/fold, which frequencies do you recommend?

2) Would it be spew to throw in a raise at some point postflop to find out where we are at? How bout leading flop or turn?

3) The river is a clear fold, right? Or did I play this so weak that a call is + EV?

sergsz 01-28-2007 06:42 PM

Re: TPGK against 3 barrels from a LAG
 
Sorry, jsut want to bump it once because I'm very curious about this hand and want to see if the evening shift has any feedback.

gezuz 01-28-2007 06:52 PM

Re: TPGK against 3 barrels from a LAG
 
I would call this river, everyone loves to 3 barrel.

KEW 01-28-2007 06:56 PM

Re: TPGK against 3 barrels from a LAG
 
Against this villain I 3 bet PF nearly 100% of the time..

As played I think you have to call that river..Villain is very aggro and your hand was played like a draw or a weak hand that villain think he can blow you off of..

natzucowww 01-28-2007 06:57 PM

Re: TPGK against 3 barrels from a LAG
 
his stats are more lagtaggish but w/ever.

1. i think callings fine though rring's probably better since you're ahead of his range though not by much.

2. if you're ahead let him keep betting, if you're behind you save money by not raising.

3. i don't think it's a clear fold with his stats but it's close to one. have you seen him fire three shells before? does he always c-bet, does he bet fast like he's on autopilot? i probably fold but im looking for a reason to call him.

carnivalhobo 01-28-2007 07:03 PM

Re: TPGK against 3 barrels from a LAG
 
you have to call this river

sergsz 01-28-2007 07:15 PM

Re: TPGK against 3 barrels from a LAG
 
His c-bet rate is 50%. Haven't been paying real close attention, so can't recall a spot where he 3-barreled before.

Dan Bitel 01-28-2007 07:31 PM

Re: TPGK against 3 barrels from a LAG
 
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you have to FOLD this river

[/ QUOTE ]

He's vb AT here REALLY REALLY rarely, and people just don't 3-barrel all that much, so plz lets have less of the "ZOMG, HE RAISES PREFLOP 25% OF THE TIME, HE'S OBV BLUFFING THIS RIVER"

AlienBoy 01-28-2007 07:32 PM

Re: TPGK against 3 barrels from a LAG
 
As played, I'm not folding this ever against someone that aggro.


But I'm also not for playing it so passively. On that flop you're good more than 75% of the time I think - check/RAISE that flop to 36.

AB

carnivalhobo 01-28-2007 07:33 PM

Re: TPGK against 3 barrels from a LAG
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
you have to FOLD this river

[/ QUOTE ]

He's vb AT here REALLY REALLY rarely, and people just don't 3-barrel all that much, so plz lets have less of the "ZOMG, HE RAISES PREFLOP 25% OF THE TIME, HE'S OBV BLUFFING THIS RIVER"

[/ QUOTE ]



you are right, i based my decision entirely off his preflop raise percentage. betsizing seems like a bluff to me, i made my decision. If OP calls the turn the river is a call, if you are folding the hand the turn is the place IMO.


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