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NaDaChip4U 10-31-2007 06:25 PM

2/4 deep stack with straight on turn with 3 clubs
 
villian is lag, stats is about 33/22, we have tangled few times before and i stacked him once and he got few middle sized pot. ive seen him calling preflop with bad hands such as Q6s many times before. not sure how villian views me but prob doesnt view me as tight player. effective stack is $930.

i raise utg wih KsQd, villian in cutoff and button calls.
flop: Jc Tc 4c
checked around.
turn: As
i bet $45, villian raises to $145, button folds.
what do i do here? im not sure what villian could have, maybe 2 pair or better? he never reraised me on turn when it was checked around before. but he raised me before on flop when i was making cont bet.
anyway i raised small to $285, is this a mistake? i was confused and just decided to make little value bet. he calls
river: 5 h
what do i do now??

AAismyfriend 10-31-2007 06:29 PM

Re: 2/4 deep stack with straight on turn with 3 clubs
 
I hate the 3 bet on the turn, as played bet $375 and puke if he shoves. Also, I think this player is betting the flop almost always with a flopped flush give your depth, so you're almost always good here IMO.

AAismyfriend 10-31-2007 06:31 PM

Re: 2/4 deep stack with straight on turn with 3 clubs
 
also, I don't really hate the 3 bet, I just hate it if you don't know what to do on a blank river. When you 3 bet the turn here you should obviously have some sort of plan IMO.

oyvindgee 10-31-2007 06:32 PM

Re: 2/4 deep stack with straight on turn with 3 clubs
 
Just fold turn. I can't see him checking turn with a set and raising now.

NaDaChip4U 10-31-2007 08:41 PM

Re: 2/4 deep stack with straight on turn with 3 clubs
 
as played what do u think i should do on river? just check call, bet or check fold?

oyvindgee 10-31-2007 08:44 PM

Re: 2/4 deep stack with straight on turn with 3 clubs
 
I wouldn't expect to be ahead and there's virtually no chance of a worse hand betting so I like c/f.

Leviathan101 10-31-2007 08:55 PM

Re: 2/4 deep stack with straight on turn with 3 clubs
 
I'm confused, do you think he never has the Ac, Kc or anything other than a flush really? I just think you're giving a lag too much credit, but I don't play 2/4. I guess it sucks you're deep, but is folding a straight to a turn raise after the flop checks through really right?

oyvindgee 10-31-2007 08:58 PM

Re: 2/4 deep stack with straight on turn with 3 clubs
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'm confused, do you think he never has the Ac, Kc or anything other than a flush really? I just think you're giving a lag too much credit, but I don't play 2/4. I guess it sucks you're deep, but is folding a straight to a turn raise after the flop checks through really right?

[/ QUOTE ]

Sure he could, I just think finding out is too expensive.

McStinky 10-31-2007 09:59 PM

Re: 2/4 deep stack with straight on turn with 3 clubs
 
I would call the turn and check-call the river because there are too many hands he could be raising besides flushes.

rand 10-31-2007 11:50 PM

Re: 2/4 deep stack with straight on turn with 3 clubs
 
you should either fold to the turn raise or vb the river


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