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Requin 07-23-2007 02:14 PM

Value stacking myself?
 
This guy was 13.5/7.8/1.3 after 200 hands. Would a non-heart river change your answer?

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $591
CO: $650.50
Button: $1613.53
SB: $726.05
BB: $344.90

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $21</font>, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($66, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $44</font>, Button calls, BB folds.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($154, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $122</font>, Button calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($398, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in $404</font>



Villain here was 21.6/16.6 with an aggr factor of 1 on the flop and infinity on the turn/river, after 100 hands. Is it just me, or is his river bet size weird?

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $687.50
UTG+1: $1258.90
Hero: $591
Button: $597.25
SB: $618.55
BB: $198.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $24</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, 3 folds.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($57, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $45</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($147, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $100</font>, Hero calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($347, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $150</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $422</font>

jlocdog 07-23-2007 02:23 PM

Re: Value stacking myself?
 
Hand 1 is an auto shove. He turns over a big A here so often.

Hand 2 you should be folding. Not deep enough to fold J here and AT- is hard to fathom that he would bet/call or even bet fold with. I guess you only win against AK in terms of value.

Requin 07-23-2007 02:24 PM

Re: Value stacking myself?
 
You noticed the paired board and the Q in hand 2 right?

jj12 07-23-2007 02:26 PM

Re: Value stacking myself?
 
i think you should bet less on hand one because the board will be super scary to the nit and he will probably fold AK. Hand 2 is good against a station, if you have a good handle on his bet sizing (i.e. seen him bet monsters big). Unless I have that read I would just call.

ikestoys 07-23-2007 02:52 PM

Re: Value stacking myself?
 
hand 1 is good, the heart isn't changing my answer

hand 2 is thin.... but prob he has AK &gt; AJ, so its fine too

AAismyfriend 07-23-2007 02:52 PM

Re: Value stacking myself?
 
[ QUOTE ]
i think you should bet less on hand one because the board will be super scary to the nit and he will probably fold AK. Hand 2 is good against a station, if you have a good handle on his bet sizing (i.e. seen him bet monsters big). Unless I have that read I would just call.

[/ QUOTE ]

What he said

terp 07-23-2007 02:59 PM

Re: Value stacking myself?
 
hand 2 is thinner than hand 1 in terms of risk but i like both.

lapoker17 07-23-2007 03:02 PM

Re: Value stacking myself?
 
both standard.

ahnuld 07-23-2007 03:07 PM

Re: Value stacking myself?
 
one is check, fold to a bet. 2 id reraise pre, rest looks good.

Requin 07-23-2007 04:08 PM

Re: Value stacking myself?
 
[ QUOTE ]
one is check, fold to a bet. 2 id reraise pre, rest looks good.

[/ QUOTE ]Does a non-heart change it for you in hand one?


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