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Bedz 11-25-2007 11:42 AM

$ 16 bubble play
 
Button did exacly the same thing the hand before, when I was in the BB. All in or fold?

Poker Stars, $15 + $1 NL Hold'em Tournament, 100/200 Blinds, 4 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: 3,640
Hero (SB): 1,965
BB: 1,385
UTG: 6,510

Pre-Flop: (300) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to 1,200</font>, Hero?

HajiShirazu 11-25-2007 11:45 AM

Re: $ 16 bubble play
 
Fold even if is doing this with atc.

Bedz 11-25-2007 11:52 AM

Re: $ 16 bubble play
 
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Fold even if is doing this with atc.

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Hmm, I thought this was a hard one, how can it be good folding even if he is pushing any two?

crystalallen 11-25-2007 12:39 PM

Re: $ 16 bubble play
 
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Fold even if is doing this with atc.

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Nooo. Really?

Fishing2do 11-25-2007 12:51 PM

Re: $ 16 bubble play
 
with 3rd in chips, decent stack in bb, and a mediocre hand... this is an easy fold.

crystalallen 11-25-2007 12:55 PM

Re: $ 16 bubble play
 
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with 3rd in chips, decent stack in bb, and a mediocre hand... this is an easy fold.

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So if button is doing this with ATC, what
do you call with?
Or does he just get your t300 every round?

Fishing2do 11-25-2007 01:00 PM

Re: $ 16 bubble play
 
yes he does get my 300 almost every round; im real tight in this situation. Maybe AQs &amp; TT+. Again you got 10bb, assuming you got decent bubble knowledge you can easily wait for better/more clear +EV spots.

DannyOcean_ 11-25-2007 01:41 PM

Re: $ 16 bubble play
 
Some people here are giving really really horrible advice. If he's an aggressive player, opening 35% and calling the all in with 20% or so, this is an auto-instant push. +1.68% on SNGWiz. If he's raising top 35% and calling top 25% still a push. If he is raising 40% and calling 32% (any broadway, any ace, any pp, any suited K), it is still +EV to push. Wow if he is raising ATC you are out of your godamm mind to fold. Awful awful awful advice here, wow. If your read is that he is a frequent stealer, easy push OP

vers 11-25-2007 01:46 PM

Re: $ 16 bubble play
 
Danny, I think since we have no FE, whatever percentage villain opens, he calls the shove with.

DannyOcean_ 11-25-2007 01:49 PM

Re: $ 16 bubble play
 
I think he folds out a certain percentage vers. If OP trusts his read that villian is an aggro stealer, then I typically think he's folding at least the bottom 7-8% of his range. Also, if villian is on ATC he is certainly not calling with J3o or 24s. All we need is a little bit of FE for this to be +EV, and i think we have it.


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