QQ preflop .. reraised allin
 

Does anyone fold this preflop?? SB stats are 17/15/6.8 over 280 hands and have no particular reads but he hasnt got outta line from what Ive seen. Other villain is unknown. How does the small stack affect things???

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $60.60
CO: $59.85
Button: $109.70
SB: $213.40
Hero: $398.20

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $12</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $46</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $60.6</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $213.2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero ????

Re: QQ preflop .. reraised allin
 

yes, QQ in that situation is probably too weak, and the SB most likely has AA or KK...you were raised by two players...and you've got to figure UTG can not be bet out of the hand now and SB figures he has UTG beat despite UTG reraising SB and you...unless you have seen these players bluff before like this, don't risk it...call only if you have AA or KK...

Re: QQ preflop .. reraised allin
 

I think this is an easy fold. Your hand is crushed almost always, and if you're lucky and they happen to have JJ and AKs you're still not in great shape (although it's + EV). QQ against your oppents ranges in this spot is not going to profitable. FOLD.

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

359,583,840 games 0.047 secs 7,650,720,000 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.634% 51.06% 01.58% 183588540 5675268.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 47.366% 45.79% 01.58% 164644764 5675268.00 { QQ }


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Without JJ:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

164,381,184 games 0.005 secs 32,876,236,800 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 43.944% 43.73% 00.21% 71886264 349212.00 { AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 56.056% 55.84% 00.21% 91796496 349212.00 { QQ }


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359,583,840 games 0.047 secs 7,650,720,000 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.634% 51.06% 01.58% 183588540 5675268.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 47.366% 45.79% 01.58% 164644764 5675268.00 { QQ }


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I dunno, so much money in the pot [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

And I think a reshove here with AK is pretty standard? Although him raising from SB looks a bit stronger than from button and I guess you are less likely to 3bet him since he's less likely to open light given the shortstack.. Bleh.

Buuuuut, I think I shove here with AK and I think if he does, you have to call.

Also, if he does have AK the shortstack might be sitting on some of his outs?

Re: QQ preflop .. reraised allin
 

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i think

Re: QQ preflop .. reraised allin
 

I fold vs a 17/15, but I could be wrong....
I don't know how much of his range is AK and how the short stack factor influences his play..

Re: QQ preflop .. reraised allin
 

Is there a time limit on editing?
I accidently removed KK+ in one of the pokerstove lines I posted above so figured I'd update that..

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.207% 38.35% 01.86% 114253440 5540034.00 { QQ }
Hand 1: 59.793% 57.93% 01.86% 172607388 5540034.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }

Re: QQ preflop .. reraised allin
 

I haven't folded QQ pre in 6-max in over 6 months and I can count on one hand the number of times I've gotten my money in bad.

Re: QQ preflop .. reraised allin
 

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I haven't folded QQ pre in 6-max in over 6 months and I can count on one hand the number of times I've gotten my money in bad.

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You mean you've been less than 5 times against KK or AA all in pf in 6 max in 6 months ??
I actually have trouble believing you. Do you mean villains smooth call the 3 bet w KK AA and don't 4 bet maybe ??

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Do you mean villains smooth call the 3 bet w KK AA and don't 4 bet maybe ??

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ldo, no-one 4-bets AA/KK typically.