$215 JJ
 

Not liking my hand much after the flop here.
How's the line? I have to say I think I'm ahead most times but this early in the tournament someone risking everything must have better than JJ?
TT or QQ+ or an OESD

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t25/t50
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t10000
UTG+1: t10000
MP1: t10000
Hero: t10000
CO: t10000
Button: t10000
SB: t10000
BB: t10000

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to t150</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t450</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to t975</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls t525 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1650)</font>.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t2175, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets t1100</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t3350</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in t9025</font>

Re: $215 JJ
 

Fold to the flop bet, you're playing for set value by calling preflop.

Re: $215 JJ
 

I would only call preflop for set-value, so on the flop I would check/fold

Re: $215 JJ
 

His continuation bet is 50% though!

Re: $215 JJ
 

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His continuation bet is 50% though!

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so? we still dont have odds to call to hit a jack or a runner runner.. It would be different if the flop was 89T

Re: $215 JJ
 

Look at his preflop 4bet, do you really think he's doing that light? I would put his range as KK+ and heavily weighted towards AA.

Re: $215 JJ
 

Maybe but I would 4bet with AK as well, though most don't.
Wouldn't you bet more on the flop for value if you had KK+ hand?

Re: $215 JJ
 

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Maybe but I would 4bet with AK as well, though most don't.
Wouldn't you bet more on the flop for value if you had KK+ hand?

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Not a person who 4bets this small preflop, he WANTS to be raised, or does not want you to go away

Re: $215 JJ
 

shoving is better than raising the flop as you can actually turn your hand into a bluff and get him to fold qq or kk (at a very large stretch as its a relatively dry board)

Your line stinks! Check/fold flop as everyone else in this thread will tell you.

Btw, has anyone ever tried the min re-raise as bluff to set-up a take down of a juicy pot on the flop? It is effective but I'm wondering at what levels is it best to try this strange play.

Re: $215 JJ
 

The problem here is you're turning your hand into a bluff by c/r if you're planning to fold to a shove. You might as well have 72o. Agree with gobbo, fold the flop and if you reeeely don't believe opp. then c/c one street reeval turn but even that I don't like because of all the overs that can hit the turn and if a 2 comes and you check and he fires a 2nd barrel you've gained no additional info.

I just call the 150 pre or raise a bit more if I'm going to rr also.