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Some9 03-25-2007 11:45 AM

NFD + Gut Shot vs. Tough Raise (preflop ok?)
 
I am confident in my game but I know I am still off from playing ideally. I would like to hear some comments which give some reasoning for their action. pls dont just say "easy xxx". thanks in advance.


Texas Holdem NL $0.50/$1
<font color="green">Seat 1: Hero ( $70.75 )</font>
Seat 2: Donk1 ( $119.16 )
<font color="red">Seat 4: Villian ( $143.10 )</font>
Seat 5: fish1 ( $97.47 )
Seat 6: Donk2 ( $80.70 )
Seat 7: fish2 ( $77.85 )
Seat 9: donk3 ( $115.80 )

<font color="green">Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] </font>

<font color="#666666">1 fold, 1 call,</font> <font color="green">Hero calls,</font> <font color="#666666">1 fold, </font><font color="red">Villian calls, </font><font color="#666666">SB completes, BB checks</font>

Flop 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

<font color="#666666">3 checks, </font> <font color="green">Hero bets $5 (pot),</font> <font color="red">Villian raises to $20, </font><font color="#666666">3 folds, </font> <font color="green">Hero??</font>

sixhigh 03-25-2007 12:57 PM

Re: NFD + Gut Shot vs. Tough Raise (preflop ok?)
 
Reload preflop. (that's really easy and needs no further explanation)
Raise preflop. You need to take the initiative and to a lesser extend build a pot in case you hit.
Betting flop is good. Villain raises pot, offering you 1:2 potodds, you are approx. 1:3 to make the nuts on the turn. Including some implied odds you have an easy call.
You could also 3bet push, but i doubt you have any folding equity and you are a coinflip against his range, making this move slightly worse than calling and crai when you hit the turn. (assuming villain pays you off)

Reads would be helpful here.

Isura 03-25-2007 12:59 PM

Re: NFD + Gut Shot vs. Tough Raise (preflop ok?)
 
Preflop is fine. Flop, this is a good spot since he'll limp a lot of smaller FDs. So I would 3-bet here.

Some9 03-25-2007 02:54 PM

Re: NFD + Gut Shot vs. Tough Raise (preflop ok?)
 
sorry forget to say; his numbers over like 80 hands were very solid, 23/8/2.1 (7-8 handed)

sixhigh your right 1:2 with 1:3 to improve. Thats really the question. If I call and dont hit the turn I have a problem no?. (will be 45 in and I have 50 back, getting 50:95 or almost 1:2 with still 1:3 dog). I could just push the flop, but I aint got any FE left (presumably) so it doesnt look too great.

and preflop, I dont really know. KJs from 2 off the button is marginal to raise with. dunno.

MYNAMEIZGREG 03-25-2007 03:03 PM

Re: NFD + Gut Shot vs. Tough Raise (preflop ok?)
 
AI.

MaaaaaaaaX 03-25-2007 03:42 PM

Re: NFD + Gut Shot vs. Tough Raise (preflop ok?)
 
With the short stack you've got i'd 3bet all in.

Some9 03-25-2007 06:21 PM

Re: NFD + Gut Shot vs. Tough Raise (preflop ok?)
 
problem w/ AI is that his range is ahead of mine. I am mostly 45% underdog and he might easily have a set (which crushes my equity)

orange 03-25-2007 06:27 PM

Re: NFD + Gut Shot vs. Tough Raise (preflop ok?)
 
PF is whatever.

I shove here given stack sizes.


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