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Parsy 11-28-2007 04:54 PM

Value shove?
 
Villains just sat down so no reads, value shove the river?

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">$29.70</font>)
UTG+1 (<font color="#0000cc">$111.91</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">$145.85</font>) Ac Kd
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">$260.35</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$111.01</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$114.70</font>)

Pre-flop: ($1.5, 6 players)
<font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $1, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $4</font>, <font color="#777777">3 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $3

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($9.5, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $7</font>, UTG+1 calls $7

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($23.5, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $14</font>, UTG+1 calls $14

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($51.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $20</font>, ??

sixhigh 11-28-2007 05:01 PM

Re: Value shove?
 
Judging from the way he played this hand we can assume villain is a donk. So he will def. call a push on the river with every twopair type hand he has.

Pitbullo 11-28-2007 05:01 PM

Re: Value shove?
 
could be flush, straight, set, do you think shove is really appropriate here?

willw9 11-28-2007 05:02 PM

Re: Value shove?
 
Shoooooove away please.

sixhigh 11-28-2007 05:05 PM

Re: Value shove?
 
[ QUOTE ]
could be flush, straight, set, do you think shove is really appropriate here?

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, sometimes they have the goods and get our stack [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Most of the time they don't and we get theirs.

Pitbullo 11-28-2007 05:06 PM

Re: Value shove?
 
Donīt you think he could be trapping here?
Since he was only calling always?

sixhigh 11-28-2007 05:09 PM

Re: Value shove?
 
Sometimes maybe. But who cares, most of the time they're not. There ain't any sane straights out there (32s maybe) and neither are there flushes (76s maybe).

h_ven 11-28-2007 05:10 PM

Re: Value shove?
 
UTG+1's line seems really fishy.
I just call the river.

Unknown Soldier 11-28-2007 05:11 PM

Re: Value shove?
 
not close, sorry you lost

Imrahil 11-28-2007 05:23 PM

Re: Value shove?
 
Ok, no straights are possible. Well if he has QT then gg. Way more likely he has two pair or some other crap. Shove please.

Parsy 11-28-2007 05:41 PM

Re: Value shove?
 
Yeah, i basically insta shoved as i figured he'd made 2 pair. He obviously insta calls with 34h, but i was asking to see if people thought this is a standard shove and profitable in the long run.

I reckon it is but a couple of friends disagreed so thought i'd post it.

wiseman1016 11-28-2007 05:49 PM

Re: Value shove?
 
Raise more preflop. Bet more on turn. Shove River.

916greatest 11-28-2007 07:59 PM

Re: Value shove?
 
Obv!!! Get most value!! I think shove is definatly the right play!!


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