5cd $1/2 - Folding a full house?
 

PokerStars Game #10599998037: 5 Card Draw Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/06/24 - 16:30:34 (ET)
Table 'Clementina II' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Top Ute ($37 in chips)
Seat 2: herley ($30.50 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero ($44.50 in chips)
Seat 4: DirtPimp ($29.75 in chips)
Seat 5: pleather ($34.50 in chips)
Seat 6: SlowHandAce ($51.25 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind $0.50
DirtPimp: posts big blind $1
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Kd Qs Qc 2s 2h]
pleather: raises $1 to $2
SlowHandAce: folds
Top Ute: folds
herley: folds
Hero: raises $1 to $3
DirtPimp: folds
pleather: calls $1
Hero: discards 1 card [Kd]
Dealt to Hero [Qs Qc 2s 2h] [2c]
pleather: discards 1 card
Hero: bets $2
pleather: raises $2 to $4
Hero: calls $2

Is this call a dumb call? Can I really beat anything here?

Re: 5cd $1/2 - Folding a full house?
 

Wow I must really suck if this call is wrong cause I would raise here all day every day unless I knew villain was some kind of super-ultra-nit.

EDIT: Oops, I misread the hand. Thought it was queens up, not deuces. I call. Badugi or TT probably have a thing or two to say tho.

Re: 5cd $1/2 - Folding a full house?
 

I suck, but I'd put villain on trips pre-draw taking 1 to disguise his hand. You improved and he probably bricked. Re-raise.

Re: 5cd $1/2 - Folding a full house?
 

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Badugi or TT probably have a thing or two to say tho.

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Maybe someone who actually plays high draw, too. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I don't think you have a threebet here, but you definitely have a call. Might be a made flush draw, might be trips.

Re: 5cd $1/2 - Folding a full house?
 

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I suck, but I'd put villain on trips pre-draw taking 1 to disguise his hand. You improved and he probably bricked. Re-raise.

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And wich trips do you think he calls the 3-bet with Pre-draw and now re-raises (and call the 3-bet) post draw? Why 3 bet? I don't think anything weaker calls.

Re: 5cd $1/2 - Folding a full house?
 

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I suck, but I'd put villain on trips pre-draw taking 1 to disguise his hand. You improved and he probably bricked. Re-raise.

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And wich trips do you think he calls the 3-bet with Pre-draw and now re-raises (and call the 3-bet) post draw? Why 3 bet? I don't think anything weaker calls.

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Valid point. Unless he really falls in love with 2 big pair and an ace or something.

I think your reasoning here is good.

So what happened? I wanna knooooow [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Re: 5cd $1/2 - Folding a full house?
 

Have you been aggro from the blinds? Not sure about the range for trips.

Edit: I also have no idea what to do if he fourbets post-draw.

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I suck, but I'd put villain on trips pre-draw taking 1 to disguise his hand. You improved and he probably bricked. Re-raise.

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And wich trips do you think he calls the 3-bet with Pre-draw and now re-raises (and call the 3-bet) post draw? Why 3 bet? I don't think anything weaker calls.

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Valid point. Unless he really falls in love with 2 big pair and an ace or something.

I think your reasoning here is good.

So what happened? I wanna knooooow [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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I also like the way I think [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Here is the hand outcome:
Hero: calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pleather: shows [Ad 9s Ac 9h As] (a full house, Aces full of Nines)
Hero: mucks hand
pleather collected $14.50 from pot

Re: 5cd $1/2 - Folding a full house?
 

Call, he can have a made draw.

Re: 5cd $1/2 - Folding a full house?
 

Hmm, this is not my day when it comes to 2 pair vs 2 pair. Just happend agin. A person raies, I 3-bet with QQ55, he draws 1, I hit a 5, he check, I bet, he raises, I call and he shows JJJ33 :S