What is my preflop range versus this (unbelievably bad) player?
 

200 hands, 80/8/2, 32%wtsd, 42%wonSD
-5 buyins. Just Beautiful... But what's my range?



Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($113.89)
WhatWeLiveFor ($148.16)
CO ($191.01)
Button ($103.04)
Hero ($113.84)
BB ($106.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, WhatWeLiveFor calls $1, CO raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero (poster) calls $4.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds, WhatWeLiveFor calls $4.

Flop: ($17) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">WhatWeLiveFor bets $16.8</font>, CO calls $16.80, Hero folds.

Turn: ($50.60) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">WhatWeLiveFor bets $50</font>, CO calls $169.21 (All-In), WhatWeLiveFor calls $76.36 (All-In).

River: ($346.17) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $346.17

Results:
WhatWeLiveFor has 7d 4d (one pair, eights).
CO has Qs Qh (two pair, queens and eights).
Outcome: CO wins $346.17.



Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($96.50)
WhatWeLiveFor ($223.80)
SB ($99)
BB ($20.37)
Hero ($118.74)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, WhatWeLiveFor calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">SB (poster) raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button WhatWeLiveFor calls $2.

Flop: ($7) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">WhatWeLiveFor raises to $6</font>, SB calls $3.

Turn: ($19) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">WhatWeLiveFor bets $17.97</font>, SB calls $17.97.

River: ($54.94) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB calls $72.03 (All-In), WhatWeLiveFor calls $72.03.

Final Pot: $199

Results:
SB has Ad Ah (three of a kind, aces).
WhatWeLiveFor has 9s 9c (one pair, nines).
Outcome: SB wins $199.



Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($115.14)
WhatWeLiveFor ($100)
Button ($338.67)
SB ($102.04)
Hero ($108.84)
UTG ($107.65)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. WhatWeLiveFor posts a blind of $1.50. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">WhatWeLiveFor (poster) raises to $1</font>, Button calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1.

Flop: ($7) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">WhatWeLiveFor bets $1</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, WhatWeLiveFor calls $5.

Turn: ($19) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">WhatWeLiveFor raises to $24</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $36</font>, <font color="#CC3333">WhatWeLiveFor raises to $48</font>, Hero calls $64.84 (All-In), WhatWeLiveFor calls $43.50 (All-In).

River: ($211.34) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $211.34

Results:
Hero has 6s 8s (straight, eight high).
WhatWeLiveFor has 7s 7d (three of a kind, sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins $211.34.

Re: What is my preflop range versus this (unbelievably bad) player?
 

try to play pots with him, preferable in position. isolate him by raising his limps.

Re: What is my preflop range versus this (unbelievably bad) player?
 

any 2 suited over 7, any 2 over 9, any pair, any other connectors

Re: What is my preflop range versus this (unbelievably bad) player?
 

dear god...just about any two in position. OOP a few less.
In position: SC's/Suited double gaps, any pair, and 2 broadway, connectors down to 65, any ace...

reraise him alot in position with anything decent...in this case like A8+ KT+ PP 7+

Re: What is my preflop range versus this (unbelievably bad) player?
 

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reraise him alot in position with any hand you're playing

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Re: What is my preflop range versus this (unbelievably bad) player?
 

have to disagree with most of these suggestions, playing crap hands when he will obviously take u to the wire with any given hand seems much less profitible than raising your good hands and limping with your good speculative ones and letting him pay u off when u hit. besides your not alone at the table there are others who might know what they are doing, for example if i was at this table and saw u constantly raising after he limps id be repopping u with a pretty wide range(not trash just hands that are likely to dominate u and the fish)

v these types of players im raising any pair, any 2 cards ten or higher, and limping with all my scs and other speculative hands.

note - if it seems 1 of the other players is raising often to isolate the fish start limp reraising him with a wide range, it will stop him dead in his tracks.

oh this only applies if the fish has already entered and i have position, if im oop and people are left to act i play my normal tight range, anything i play from utg or mp is a raise hand, i dont open limp oop just because hes at the table

Re: What is my preflop range versus this (unbelievably bad) player?
 

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v these types of players im raising any pair, any 2 cards ten or higher, and limping with all my scs and other speculative hands.

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I think you should be raising your SCs as well - isolating guys like this is v. important

Re: What is my preflop range versus this (unbelievably bad) player?
 

from my experience raising hands that need fold equity to isloate an extreme callign station is not ideal play for the situation, especially one that will make big bets on 100% pure bluffs.

also the regulars arent going to let u go more than 1 or 2 orbits b4 they start isolating YOU because they will realize ur raising crap.

Re: What is my preflop range versus this (unbelievably bad) player?
 

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playing crap hands when he will obviously take u to the wire with any given hand seems much less profitible than raising your good hands and limping with your good speculative ones and letting him pay u off when u hit.

v these types of players im raising any pair, any 2 cards ten or higher, and limping with all my scs and other speculative hands.

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Younghov - thanks for the excellent advice, I agree with everything you've said. My range was exactly what you suggested, however I was unsure if I should be limping my trash hands in addition good speculatives versus such an extreme donk also.

Re: What is my preflop range versus this (unbelievably bad) player?
 

foldqu1ty i was mainly referring to raising crap hands. calling isnt as bad but i still prefer just folding the trash