25/50 HU ~400 bb deep vs durrrr help
 

Villian is durrrrrrrr. he and i have been playing hu over 4 tables for roughly 2 hrs. At this point in the match i think he was up maybe a few buyins, and i was making a bit of a comeback. We both have been very active preflop and postflop. He has seen me bluffraise and checkraise rivers with air.

Also durrr pretty much leads with his whole range so i can't really polarize his hand to anything exact.

Full Tilt Poker, $25/$50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $21,622
BB: $18,203.25

Pre-Flop: X X dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $150</font>, BB calls $100

Flop: ($300) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $250</font>, Hero calls $250

Turn: ($800) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $650</font>, Hero calls $650

River: ($2,100) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $1,650</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5,950</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $17,153.25 and is All-In</font>, Hero ....?

~11k more for me to call.

We all know how sick durrr is... what is your guys calling range for this river?

also if it makes a difference, he didnt really take too long on shoving over my raise and didnt hit the timebank, whereas i timed just a lil before raising.

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This hand is so dumb. Like do u srsly expect ppl to give u a reasonable reply not knowing your hand or match dynamics. WTF I mean you have A2 like always but wtf, call? fold? it dont matter.... eff u.

Re: 25/50 HU ~400 bb deep vs durrrr help
 

These hands always seem to crack me up.

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I'd only raise a made hand if I was calling a reraise...as for callable hands A hi is probably good enough.

I guess if you have a 2 raise/fold is justifiable, but it's hard for us to say. My default would be to a call.

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ur repping pretty much nothing. i would never play a hand like this so i dont know what i would call with. u probably have AA or KK. thats raptors guess. that sucks [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Re: 25/50 HU ~400 bb deep vs durrrr help
 

I think you have missed draw tcorb but if you have like AT this spot blows

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i dont really like hands posted like this bc i like to know what we have so i can consider why we made each decision throughout the hand instead of guessing what i would do with all the possible hands that could play like this (idk if that made sense).

anyway, i think you probably have an overpair here or AT i guess and it's a really [censored] spot, i guess it's a fold?

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ur repping pretty much nothing. i would never play a hand like this so i dont know what i would call with. u probably have AA or KK. thats raptors guess. that sucks [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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yah the more i think about it the less i like the spot he puts himself into on the river. I feel like if he gives me any credit he is just owning himself so hard w/ this raise since he has a hand that can insta call a shove literally never.

edit: while i'd usually call 52s in his spot... i definitely wouldnt be happy about it- or expect to be good &gt;50%

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ur repping pretty much nothing. i would never play a hand like this so i dont know what i would call with. u probably have AA or KK. thats raptors guess. that sucks [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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yah the more i think about it the less i like the spot he puts himself into on the river. I feel like if he gives me any credit he is just owning himself so hard w/ this raise since he has a hand that can insta call a shove literally never.

edit: while i'd usually call 52s in his spot... i definitely wouldnt be happy about it- or expect to be good &gt;50%

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would u fold 52o?

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ur repping pretty much nothing. i would never play a hand like this so i dont know what i would call with. u probably have AA or KK. thats raptors guess. that sucks [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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yah the more i think about it the less i like the spot he puts himself into on the river. I feel like if he gives me any credit he is just owning himself so hard w/ this raise since he has a hand that can insta call a shove literally never.

edit: while i'd usually call 52s in his spot... i definitely wouldnt be happy about it- or expect to be good &gt;50%

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would u fold 52o?

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wtf obv u cant make a flush...

Re: 25/50 HU ~400 bb deep vs durrrr help
 

I think your hand would help a bit, since it would skew his range, given you're considering a call.

Besides that, I don't see any hand you could have, where I would raise-fold/call this river, besides some slowplayed monster. Raising here puts you in the sickest spot with your whole range.

Depending on your betting patterns, I would advise that you incorperate a smaller river raise size, to induce smaller 3bet bluffs, you could snap. This also makes it simpler to raise thin for value with most stack sizes.

- AB

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ur repping pretty much nothing. i would never play a hand like this so i dont know what i would call with. u probably have AA or KK. thats raptors guess. that sucks [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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yea, this kind of reminds me of a hand of yours i saw rap, best hand tcorb has here is A2, , maybe 25, and durr is pretty sure he won't clal with it.

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well played OP








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ur repping pretty much nothing. i would never play a hand like this so i dont know what i would call with.

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well played OP








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Dont ask why, but this made me lmao. And as to the hand i can only see you having a tough decision with a2 or possibly 55. I think overpairs are easy folds (even if its durr) and even the latter two hands can be folded the way the hand was played.

I dont think you ever show up with 52 because it would be suicide not to protect such a fragile made hand with such big stack on the turn.

Re: 25/50 HU ~400 bb deep vs durrrr help
 

The best advice I can give you is not to play 25/50, not to play deep, not to play durr, and certainly not to play 25/50 400bb deep vs durrr. That's foolish I don't care how good you are, there's got to be better spots out there to win money

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well i was going to ask durr to quit his table and play with 100 bb staks but this hand came up....


too all wondering my hand i have QQ....

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well i was going to ask durr to quit his table and play with 100 bb staks but this hand came up....


too all wondering my hand i have QQ....

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With QQ, I'm a little confused about your river raise. I assume it was for value, rather than a bluff, since you are seriously contemplating a call after his all-in raise. smooth call flop, smooth call turn, then raise river for value??

-bigbootch

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This is definitely the optimal way to play QQ 400 BB deep

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The whole point of HU is good game selection.

You seem to have missed the point.

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I think you have missed draw tcorb but if you have like AT this spot blows

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got to fold AT here

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The whole point of HU is good game selection.

You seem to have missed the point.

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for the record, in the old days i didnt mind playing durrr when he was playing HU on 20000 tables at one time. he timed out a bunch and wouldnt fight for small pots that much. also its pretty small stakes for him, and everyone can get sloppy at smaller stakes. I dont mind taking a shot here.

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I think this bet is more intended as a tweener hand meant to look like a bluff. Hero can count on durr over shoving here only when he has a monster(atleast it think).

but he thinks hes ahead enough to get durr to make curious calls and that he wouldnt get bluff raised off enough to worry bout it. Ten all of a sudden he was like holy [censored] this is durr and a bluff here is possible when he shoves river.

Imo he shouldnt have made this raise unless he had a read on what he would do if shoved on. Durr would have to been smoking some super dank nuggets to try this as a bluff often enough to make this a call IMO.

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u gotta be deep in his head to make that raise with QQ. deeeeeeeep