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iron81 12-02-2007 04:40 AM

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My guesses:

BCSCG
Georgia vs. OSU

Fiesta
Oklahoma vs. ASU

Sugar
LSU vs. Hawaii

Orange
VT vs. WVU

Rose
USC vs. Kansas

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One time. This is exactly what I was thinking/hoping. I like ASU over Illinois because they play in a better conference and have had more national exposure over the year. Plus, they actually won this week and will be ranked higher.

Of course, the Rose Bowl wouldn't take ASU, but since OSU is going to the NC game, the Rose Bowl will have the first pick among the at-large teams. Kansas is easily the most attractive nationally and will be selected. Then, it just comes down to Illinois and ASU in the Fiesta and I'm hoping that the Fiesta will take the local team that accomplished something for the first time in the football history of the State of Arizona.

Dudd 12-02-2007 04:47 AM

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I'm not a huge numbers guy, can someone tell me very briefly why USC is not being considered more for the NC?

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Stanford is not a very good football.

MyTurn2Raise 12-02-2007 04:47 AM

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no way the Rose chooses Kansas over Illinois

C.R.E.A.M.

BigPoppa 12-02-2007 04:49 AM

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Florida gets screwed by the no more than 2 BCS teams from one conference rule. So does Missouri. BC and UT drop out due to losses. Hawaii gets automatic bid. Illinois moves up enough to get picked, but would still have to leapfrog several higher ranked teams to get Rose Bowl berth. Fiesta Bowl will likely stiff ASU for economic reasons (fans who don't have to travel don't spend much money). Will a team lose its conference and have a shot at the title?

My head hurts, but in a good way.

MyTurn2Raise 12-02-2007 04:50 AM

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CBS sportsline predictions

Title: tOSU v LSU
Rose: USC v Illinois
Orange: V Tech v W Virginia
Fiesta: Oklahoma v Kansas
Sugar: Georgia v Hawai'i

BCSguru has W Virginia and Kansas switched

ClarkNasty 12-02-2007 04:50 AM

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One time. This is exactly what I was thinking/hoping. I like ASU over Illinois because they play in a better conference and have had more national exposure over the year. Plus, they actually won this week and will be ranked higher.

Of course, the Rose Bowl wouldn't take ASU, but since OSU is going to the NC game, the Rose Bowl will have the first pick among the at-large teams. Kansas is easily the most attractive nationally and will be selected. Then, it just comes down to Illinois and ASU in the Fiesta and I'm hoping that the Fiesta will take the local team that accomplished something for the first time in the football history of the State of Arizona.

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Almost no chance Kansas gets selected over Illinois for the Rose Bowl.

BigPoppa 12-02-2007 04:51 AM

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no way the Rose chooses Kansas over Illinois

C.R.E.A.M.

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1 loss Kansas will likely be ranked 3-4 in BCS.
3 loss Illinois will likely be ranked 12-13 in BCS.

illini43 12-02-2007 04:54 AM

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OU vs. KU is an enticing matchup in the Fiesta bowl.

Of course I'm biased as an Illinois student but I personally think:

USC vs. Illinois
OU vs. KU

are pretty enticing matchups.

BigPoppa 12-02-2007 04:55 AM

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I think ASU is most likely to get shafted.
If they make it, then Illinois is out.

MyTurn2Raise 12-02-2007 04:56 AM

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no way the Rose chooses Kansas over Illinois

C.R.E.A.M.

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1 loss Kansas will likely be ranked 3-4 in BCS.
3 loss Illinois will likely be ranked 12-13 in BCS.

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which means absolutely nothing


follow the money

Illinois is a bigger alumni network, more connections to Southern Cali, has a bigger tv market
in addition to the most important thing that Delaney got the Rose Bowl a sweetheart deal worth lots of money in the last negotiations and is pressuring them to put Illinois in the game


follow the money--that's what the bowls are about

ClarkNasty 12-02-2007 04:56 AM

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no way the Rose chooses Kansas over Illinois

C.R.E.A.M.

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1 loss Kansas will likely be ranked 3-4 in BCS.
3 loss Illinois will likely be ranked 12-13 in BCS.

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You don't get it. The Big11Ten and Pac10 and the Rose Bowl are not like the others. It's like the secret society.

Anyways, KU really should be thrilled with a BCS berth because they certainly don't deserve it over Mizery.

illini43 12-02-2007 04:57 AM

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follow the money--that's what college sports are about

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MyTurn2Raise 12-02-2007 04:57 AM

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I think ASU is most likely to get shafted.
If they make it, then Illinois is out.

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well, no one really gets 'shafted' this year
it's a battle of the undeserving

bottomset 12-02-2007 04:58 AM

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CBS sportsline predictions

Title: tOSU v LSU
Rose: USC v Illinois
Orange: V Tech v W Virginia
Fiesta: Oklahoma v Kansas
Sugar: Georgia v Hawai'i

BCSguru has W Virginia and Kansas switched

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Hawaii is going to get destroyed, it'll be epic, largest margin of victory coming up

shame Georgia doesn't get to play a good team

pwnsall 12-02-2007 04:59 AM

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Do you think coaches or media will intentioanlly vote teams they don't want way lower than they believe they should be? I really hope some coach votes Georgia or Va Tech like 20th so we have some scandals to talk about. I mean, if I were a coach I would do it and I have to believe a lot of coaches will too.

iron81 12-02-2007 05:00 AM

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The Rose Bowl took an at-large B12 team (Texas) twice in the last 5 years.

ClarkNasty 12-02-2007 05:01 AM

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The Rose Bowl took an at-large B12 team (Texas) twice in the last 5 years.

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You do know the difference right?

One was the title game. No choice.
The other one Iowa had been chosen before they got to choose. So also no choice.

Not at all the same situation. They have first pick this year.

MyTurn2Raise 12-02-2007 05:02 AM

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The Rose Bowl took an at-large B12 team (Texas) twice in the last 5 years.

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one was a national title game, so they didn't take them


the other.....go back to my point

look at the $$$$$ Texas brings

Kansas is no Texas

neither is Illinois, but it's closer

pwnsall 12-02-2007 05:02 AM

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I really think Va Tech has a much better shot than people here give them. They should have the best computer scores for the teams in the debate so as long as the gap is relatively small I think they could jump LSU. People like to argue the computers don't have as big of a say but the percentage gaps between places in the computers seem to be bigger than in the polls.

iron81 12-02-2007 05:03 AM

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Replace one Texas appearance with an Oklahoma appearance. Excuse me.

pwnsall 12-02-2007 05:03 AM

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The Rose Bowl took an at-large B12 team (Texas) twice in the last 5 years.

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one was a national title game, so they didn't take them


the other.....go back to my point

look at the $$$$$ Texas brings

Kansas is no Texas

neither is Illinois, but it's closer

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Didn't Texas qualify automatically because they were top 4 and just past Cal for the spot? and the other spot was taken by Utah?

Dudd 12-02-2007 05:05 AM

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I really think Va Tech has a much better shot than people here give them. They should have the best computer scores for the teams in the debate so as long as the gap is relatively small I think they could jump LSU. People like to argue the computers don't have as big of a say but the percentage gaps between places in the computers seem to be bigger than in the polls.

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No way does Va Tech beat out LSU because I'm pretty sure LSU is still scoring on the Hokies.

Francis_MH 12-02-2007 05:06 AM

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The Rose Bowl took an at-large B12 team (Texas) twice in the last 5 years.

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You do know the difference right?

One was the title game. No choice.
The other one Iowa had been chosen before they got to choose. So also no choice.

Not at all the same situation. They have first pick this year.

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I thought the Rose Bowl got pressured into taking Texas over Cal who was ranked just as high. The Rose Bowl against Michigan that Vince Young became "Vince Young just wins football games!"

bottomset 12-02-2007 05:06 AM

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The Rose Bowl took an at-large B12 team (Texas) twice in the last 5 years.

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one was a national title game, so they didn't take them


the other.....go back to my point

look at the $$$$$ Texas brings

Kansas is no Texas

neither is Illinois, but it's closer

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Didn't Texas qualify automatically because they were top 4 and just past Cal for the spot? and the other spot was taken by Utah?

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didn't utah play Pitt(stupid autobid)

I think Texas 4, Cal 5 Utah 6th maybe

pitt 250th

pwnsall 12-02-2007 05:16 AM

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I really think Va Tech has a much better shot than people here give them. They should have the best computer scores for the teams in the debate so as long as the gap is relatively small I think they could jump LSU. People like to argue the computers don't have as big of a say but the percentage gaps between places in the computers seem to be bigger than in the polls.

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No way does Va Tech beat out LSU because I'm pretty sure LSU is still scoring on the Hokies.

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The computers aren't allowed to factor this in and the humans could do pretty much anything but if I had to guess it will be
tOSU
big gap
LSU
small gap
Va Tech and Georgia
and if the gap isn't big enough it won't matter that they got killed. This is just a guess of course but I won't be shocked if it happens.


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