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Mat Sklansky 10-12-2007 01:55 PM

from pittm
 
Hey Mat,

I have been gone for 2 months and had some time to think about what happened. I realize that repeating my qualms with how you do your job over and over again would a) change nothing ever. b) make everyone pissed off. c) be entirely unhelpful. So since I have come to this realization I would like my PITTM account back, where I can post, stay out of your way and enjoy the forums/help others enjoy the forums more. You can ban me from ATF or whatever if you think thats what needs to be done(I assure you, at this point it doesnt need to be done). But I would like to be able to come back and contribute again, but without the drama that took place before. Thanks for considering this.

Ryan

*TT* 10-12-2007 02:01 PM

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Is that an apology? If you got an apology I'd be fine with letting him back in but I think his email is still calling you out in a subtle way.

El Diablo 10-12-2007 02:05 PM

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Mat,

FREE PITTM!

diebitter 10-12-2007 02:08 PM

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I've missed him.

4_2_it 10-12-2007 02:12 PM

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That PM seems more like a cease-fire agreement than an apology. For the record, I am PITTM neutral.

Nick B. 10-12-2007 02:13 PM

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mat, i think it would be a bad idea.

Mat Sklansky 10-12-2007 02:21 PM

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it's not an apology, obviously. but it's not an apology that would bring him back. it's nick. nick says no, so i guess that's that.

tuq 10-12-2007 02:24 PM

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it's not an apology, obviously. but it's not an apology that would bring him back. it's nick. nick says no, so i guess that's that.

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LOL!

Yeah, super bad idea. There's simply no way in the two months or whatever since his last episode that he's gained the emotional maturity necessary to overcome himself. And that assumes that you have forgiven and forgotten all the names he called you both in ATF and behind your back.

El Diablo 10-12-2007 02:25 PM

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Nick,

GIVE HIM A CHANCE!!!!!!

El Diablo 10-12-2007 02:25 PM

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All,

My opinion is "Eh, whatever, it's an internet forum and he didn't do anything all that bad in the grand scheme of things. So WTF, sure, let him back. If he is a pain in the ass again, ban him again, no big deal."

Gildwulf 10-12-2007 02:26 PM

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he's ok, but I can't really see him adding any value to the forum, or at least enough value that would outweigh his trolliness. I mean, how much do we really need to know about headphones?

I'm pretty meh either way

citanul 10-12-2007 02:30 PM

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while i'm agreeing with everyone else in the thread except db and el d (wtf, when did you guys start agreeing), am i misremembering, or didn't pittm create a number of other accounts to continue posting on 2p2 after he was removed? (i could easily have him confused with another poster.)

1) no apology
2) hasn't actually left, just wants his old account back
3) he's an asshat
4) what gildwulf said.

Mat Sklansky 10-12-2007 02:32 PM

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i forgive everybody. it's one of the things i believe he believes i do wrong.

another thing i do wrong is give the mods too much power. i believe he was banned by nt! when I said any mod can get him. as far as i'm concerned you guys can unban and ban him at will.

i really don't care for now.

El Diablo 10-12-2007 02:34 PM

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Mods,

"as far as i'm concerned you guys can unban and ban him at will."

This has potential for fun.

daryn 10-12-2007 02:35 PM

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he says he's been gone 2 months? he totally hasn't. he has been banned a few times with new accounts. why lie that's what i don't get?

tuq 10-12-2007 02:42 PM

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he says he's been gone 2 months? he totally hasn't. he has been banned a few times with new accounts. why lie that's what i don't get?

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Heh, I just remembered that CallMeIshmael correctly found him just a week ago in an RIAA thread and that account was banned, so yeah.

And let's not forget...

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/tuq2k2/pittm.jpg

Mike Haven 10-12-2007 02:57 PM

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How do people spot him? Does he out himself on purpose? Or is it simply a style that comes through and people make accusations?

If he wants to be part of the community, isn't it the same old story that if he creates a new account with no connection to his banned ones then he should be allowed to?

I lean towards him not being allowed back as PITTM, but as long as he doesn't flaunt a new account is him, even if others suspect it is, give him normal posting rights.

El Diablo 10-12-2007 03:04 PM

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All,

I unbanned him.

My notes: "Unbanned because mat said i could. ED 10/12/07."

He currently has 9865 posts.

Line on him reaching 10k?

Gildwulf 10-12-2007 03:06 PM

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good luck dids

El Diablo 10-12-2007 03:09 PM

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Gild,

9869 already. He might make it!

*TT* 10-12-2007 03:24 PM

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it's nick. nick says no, so i guess that's that.

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Mat made a funny!

diebitter 10-12-2007 03:28 PM

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EL D


Good decision.

durron597 10-12-2007 03:32 PM

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Gild,

9869 already. He might make it!

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el diablo,

do you have anything planned for post 33333?

entertainme 10-12-2007 03:43 PM

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Mods,

"as far as i'm concerned you guys can unban and ban him at will."

This has potential for fun.

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I propose we alternate at the top of every hour...

3:00 PM = Ban
4:00 PM = Unban
5:00 PM = Ban

etc. etc. etc.

tuq 10-12-2007 04:02 PM

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Mods,

"as far as i'm concerned you guys can unban and ban him at will."

This has potential for fun.

[/ QUOTE ]

I propose we alternate at the top of every hour...

3:00 PM = Ban
4:00 PM = Unban
5:00 PM = Ban

etc. etc. etc.

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This would actually be quite funny IMO.

MrWookie 10-12-2007 04:34 PM

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If there ever was a guy on which we should implement the "miserable users" vB mod on, it's him.

El Diablo 10-12-2007 04:57 PM

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e: I like that the banning/unbanning reason can always just stay what NT wrote in the first place: "because mat said i could"

d: Prob a trip report about your mom

private joker 10-12-2007 05:00 PM

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El D,

Weren't you one of the people arguing against this type of lax punishment on the grounds that if people realize they can get permabanned and then come back later, then banning won't mean anything?

"Oh I'll just post some inline horse porn and swastikas, get banned, and probably come back in a few weeks. That will be funny."

Mat Sklansky 10-12-2007 05:12 PM

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If you don't like el diablo's decision, go ahead and reverse it.

El Diablo 10-12-2007 05:16 PM

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pj,

Yes. Point?

PS: durron's mom is hot

private joker 10-12-2007 05:19 PM

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You're right, that would be fun and funny, but I don't care -- I'm not the banning type of guy (only people I've ever banned are spammers, oh and nineinchal for 14 days) but I was just making the point that repeatedly bringing back famously permabanned posters makes permabanning a totally nonthreatening punishment?

"Permabanned! Wow, I guess I have to wait a few weeks to come back."

tuq 10-12-2007 05:22 PM

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pj,

I think you're missing the point, which (I hope) is to mess with RJ and see if he 1) plays along, or 2) completely wigs out and loses it again. Such is my guess anyway based off of Mat and El D's responses. They're not just reinstating him unscathed.

entertainme 10-12-2007 05:33 PM

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If you don't like el diablo's decision, go ahead and reverse it.

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[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Mat stirring the pot.[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...atandmouse.jpg

*TT* 10-12-2007 05:46 PM

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If you don't like el diablo's decision, go ahead and reverse it.

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http://www.alexrudloff.com/media/2007/01/dynomite.jpg

NT! 10-12-2007 06:40 PM

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mat you are the man

i don't want to be the first to do it but i will not be the last

Ryan Beal 10-12-2007 07:38 PM

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I may do it. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

He probably shouldn't get to come back yet based on... everything. Even istewart has been considerably more reasonable about his situation by email recently.

entertainme 10-12-2007 07:45 PM

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I have the strangest feeling he might need to adjust his preferences when he logs in.

Woman's intuition?

NT! 10-12-2007 10:24 PM

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I may do it. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

He probably shouldn't get to come back yet based on... everything. Even istewart has been considerably more reasonable about his situation by email recently.

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i think this is ample evidence that you need to free istewart.

miajag 10-12-2007 10:27 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
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I may do it. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

He probably shouldn't get to come back yet based on... everything. Even istewart has been considerably more reasonable about his situation by email recently.

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i think this is ample evidence that you need to free istewart.

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Word on the street is that freedom is near.

NT! 10-12-2007 11:01 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
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I may do it. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

He probably shouldn't get to come back yet based on... everything. Even istewart has been considerably more reasonable about his situation by email recently.

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i think this is ample evidence that you need to free istewart.

[/ QUOTE ]


winnnaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Word on the street is that freedom is near.

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