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cs3 11-13-2007 06:29 AM

AA vs a reg - so i wanna open shove this flop for 2x pot
 
<font color="blue"> UTG is a regular semi-lag. we have lots of history recently and have played tons of big pots. ive won almost every sinlge one of them and am up like 6-7 buyins on him over 800 hands - so that may factor into his mindset one way or another.

hes running 24/16 and so far is pretty straightforward postflop. i have seen him make some really big calls when he thinks im fos tho (with A-high for like 90bb's, and QQ calldown on an AAJJX board for 3 streets).

he calls lots of 3bets OOP with just about any pair. especially vs me he doesnt fold much PF once he raises. ive only seen him 4bt like twice and both times he was OOP and shoved over a 3bet after he PRR'd

CO is a random donk that will call any raise or rerasie with anything semicoordinated.

im running 22/19 and villain knows im decent/at least have a clue. he prob thinks i may be a little spewy postflop as ive been caught doing some dumb [censored] tho</font>

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $107.25
SB: $101.90
BB: $137.50
UTG: $136.30
CO: $109.60

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Ahttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (BTN)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $4</font>, CO calls $4, <font color="red">Hero raises to $18</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $14, CO calls $14
<font color="blue"> i thinks i knows what he be havin </font>

Flop: ($55.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
UTG checks, CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $89.25 and is All-In</font>
<font color="blue"> i am so smart!
i am so smart!
S-M-R-T!
S-M-R-T! </font>

AaronOC 11-13-2007 06:43 AM

Re: AA vs a reg - so i wanna open shove this flop for 2x pot
 
well this is an interesting way of avoiding being outplayed, looks good to me as long as he will call with overpairs, but i think that this baord hits so little of his range and there are no draws out there that you could bet like 35 and get more value from small overpairs (99,1010)

anyways nh

Daddy Warbucks 11-13-2007 07:02 AM

Re: AA vs a reg - so i wanna open shove this flop for 2x pot
 
I like it. It's such a "bad" line that i think people look you up a lot.

cs3 11-13-2007 07:03 AM

Re: AA vs a reg - so i wanna open shove this flop for 2x pot
 
i defintitely wasnt trying to avoid gbeing outplayed fwiw.
i was planning to get in my stack one way or another regardless once i got 2 calls PF... more like i just didnt want to give either villain a chance to outplay themself on various scary turn cards

pdoran10 11-13-2007 07:07 AM

Re: AA vs a reg - so i wanna open shove this flop for 2x pot
 
um yeah this is pretty standard. you arent folding. and you aren't betting to fold to a raise, so shoving here makes perfect sense in a pot that is already this size on the flop.

djshawk 11-13-2007 08:09 AM

Re: AA vs a reg - so i wanna open shove this flop for 2x pot
 
It looks to me like you are going to get more value from CO than the reg so I would bet less to intice him along. If he's got a small pair it's going to be way easier for him to call 2 smaller bets than a shove.

If you bet 50 you're giving them at most 3-1 implied odds which isn't enough to call with flush or straight. If you get a caller then the turn will give them 4-1 so still only breakeven to hit their flush and you made money on the flop call.

If you think shoving will be interpreted as weak and will get a call then fair enough but I don't think the reg will have a big enough hand to make a hero call here and the overbet will probably scare CO off.

billybeartku 11-13-2007 08:46 AM

Re: AA vs a reg - so i wanna open shove this flop for 2x pot
 
who's this reg? what's his sn?

Bulletproof Monk 11-13-2007 09:04 AM

Re: AA vs a reg - so i wanna open shove this flop for 2x pot
 
this is fine.

$35 on the flop is also fine imo

Demogorgon 11-13-2007 09:22 AM

Re: AA vs a reg - so i wanna open shove this flop for 2x pot
 
Looks fine, but I don't prefer it over a standard cbet. If you balance by playing your "bluffs" (things like AhKh, 76s, AhKx) like this then it's cooler.

sightless 11-13-2007 09:30 AM

Re: AA vs a reg - so i wanna open shove this flop for 2x pot
 
I usually bet 40 in this spot


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