Is it a tarp? Or just shove?
 

Unremarkable villian, but ive seen him limp/call then check/fold a fair bit. Shove?

Club on the Park 1.00/2.00, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

Button Hero ($209.70)</font>[/b]
SB PHNX666 ($308.80)
BB DarthSpaceRaider ($199.05)
UTG aglenist ($184.25)</font>[/b]
UTG+1 locksy ($169.35)
CO Tooweeliee ($442.70)

Preflop: Hero is on the Button with Ahttp://www.talking-poker.com/templat...ages/spade.gif 9http://www.talking-poker.com/templat...ages/spade.gif
aglenist calls 2.00, 2 folds, Hero raises to 10.00, 2 folds, aglenist calls 8.00.

Flop (23.00) Ahttp://www.talking-poker.com/templat...ages/heart.gif 2http://www.talking-poker.com/templat...es/diamond.gif 9http://www.talking-poker.com/templat...es/diamond.gif
aglenist checks, Hero bets 18.00, aglenist calls 18.00.

Turn (59.00) Qhttp://www.talking-poker.com/templat...es/diamond.gif
aglenist checks, Hero bets 35.00, aglenist calls 35.00.

River (129.00) 7http://www.talking-poker.com/templat...ages/spade.gif
aglenist checks

Re: Is it a tarp? Or just shove?
 

Anyone? Standard shove?

Re: Is it a tarp? Or just shove?
 

Easy shove

Re: Is it a tarp? Or just shove?
 

yeah a lot of donks wont fold a weak a here.. if he has a flush he'd probably let u know by now most likely on the turn i shove aj here fwiw, too thin?

Re: Is it a tarp? Or just shove?
 

what do u think he will call with?

i guess a2 and q9 both call [but he should have folded preflop] and AJ AK call [although he'd probably reraise both preflop]

the flush got there, but i think he should have bet river if he had it

Re: Is it a tarp? Or just shove?
 

More on turn to make the river shove easier.

Re: Is it a tarp? Or just shove?
 

value bet 72.

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I'd be tempted to bet a little more on the turn like $44...

The fact that he limped UTG and check called flop and turn makes me want to check behind on river...which I know is weak but his line is sooooooo suspect...

Bet either $77-$88 on river or check behind...

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what do u think he will call with?
i guess a2 and q9 both call [but he should have folded preflop] and AJ AK call [although he'd probably reraise both preflop]


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I think the hole hand is kind of wierd.
He should have raised a hand like A2 or Q9 or 22 on the flop (and I think there are enough players who call a raise with the first two hands, which means you can probably add them to his range). Whereas I think he might have slowplayed 22 in order to get it in on a non-diamond turn (=&gt; makes his turn call reasonable).

Most likely are 22 and a medium ace with let`s say the J or T of diamonds. =&gt; 22 will call a river shove, AJ and AT probably won`t.
Imho we can`t deny the possiblity of him holding a flush or a hand like Q9, A2, or even another weak ace just because he took a strange line here.

=&gt;I think the value in shoving is not as high as the value of beting something between 40-50 and folding to a shove. He will not shove with anything worse than a flush(unless you is able of realy sucky river-bluffs)+you will encourage Ax kind of hands (which yuo beat) to stay in.