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DannyOcean_ 11-14-2007 07:25 PM

6.50 - AJ limped and ACTION!
 
Full Tilt Poker Game #4175766613: $6 + $0.50 Sit & Go (Turbo) (31698878), Table 1 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:32:04 ET - 2007/11/14

Seat 1: TigerWedges (1,470)
Seat 3: MrDannyOcean (1,450)
Seat 4: cookie28 (1,540)
Seat 5: MiloDocter (1,240)
Seat 6: Scootagee (1,460)
Seat 7: dewford (3,530)
Seat 8: Mousimus (1,310)
Seat 9: sparkie1313 (1,500)
MiloDocter posts the small blind of 20
Scootagee posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #4

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MrDannyOcean [A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
dewford calls 40
Mousimus calls 40
2 folds
MrDannyOcean calls 40
1 fold
MiloDocter calls 20
Scootagee checks

*** FLOP *** [A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]

<font color="red">MiloDocter bets 40
Scootagee raises to 160
dewford calls 160
Mousimus raises to 800</font>
MrDannyOcean ???

Two questions about this hand. First is about the limp pf. I often do this with what i consider to be marginal aces with other limpers limp before i do. For instance, I don't like to raise several limpers with A8, because if I'm called and the flop comes Axx, can i be comfortable trying to build a pot and get it in? However, in a limped pot when the flop comes Axx, i'm solidly ahead of everyone's range, and can bet for value, as well as play better on tricky flops because i'm not pot-committed. How do you feel about this limp?

Secondly, is there any reason to be calling here? I auto-folded this pretty much. I guess the limp is the more interesting question... as i can't imagine calling here. I smell a set.

lucid75 11-14-2007 07:32 PM

Re: 6.50 - AJ limped and ACTION!
 
1. Fold PF.
2. Building a pot on an ace high flop is not a spot where you can go crazy and build a pot and try to get it in. This has about as much EV as taking 6.50 and dousing it in lighter fluid and trying to see how close you can get it to a flame. Save your money for a more or less guaranteed double up @ this blind level. Otherwise save your money for push/fold.
3. Doesn't matter what you smell, autofold.

P.S. You have AT, not AJ.

sence25 11-14-2007 07:35 PM

Re: 6.50 - AJ limped and ACTION!
 
With this action this is an instafold.
And I like to limp AJ pf, AT is somehow a bit weak.

drzen 11-15-2007 12:00 AM

Re: 6.50 - AJ limped and ACTION!
 
1/ Hate it.

My reasoning goes like this:

a/ If the pot gets big on an ace high flop, I'm likely to be behind, and the more I get in, the more likely I am to get stacked
b/ If it didn't get big, I won a small pot while risking a.

2/ Like it. See 1a.

Kevin8423 11-15-2007 02:54 AM

Re: 6.50 - AJ limped and ACTION!
 
Honestly pf doesn't really matter either way. If there wasn't action from multiple people on the flop (against one other bettor is much different) I wouldn't mind getting it in usually, but its unlikely you are ahead in this case.

FWIW I'm not limping here, but like I said I don't think it makes much difference.

Scotty_12 11-15-2007 04:53 AM

Re: 6.50 - AJ limped and ACTION!
 
I like limping a bit more if its suited, but still dont like it. Would limp AJs and AQo behind though

Flop I fold even faster than I would have preflop


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