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milesdyson 11-28-2007 07:58 PM

Re: i just ate ham and eggs (eggs and ham for those in UK)
 
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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

546 games 0.001 secs 546,000 games/sec

Board: Tc Td 6h 5s 2s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 57.143% 57.14% 00.00% 312 0.00 { 77 }
Hand 1: 42.857% 42.86% 00.00% 234 0.00 { 88+, ATs+, KQs, AJo+ }

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Wow you completely pozzed yourself right now.

Heisenb3rg 11-28-2007 08:00 PM

Re: i just ate ham and eggs (eggs and ham for those in UK)
 
I edited post

milesdyson 11-28-2007 08:01 PM

Re: i just ate ham and eggs (eggs and ham for those in UK)
 
You know what my issue is with that post, and editing in more pokerstoves isn't helping.

Heisenb3rg 11-28-2007 08:04 PM

Re: i just ate ham and eggs (eggs and ham for those in UK)
 
I assume its because you think people dont bet/call A hi...?

Ill post my thoughts on your thread:

I call down, and wait for favorible cards (ones that pick me up gutshot/OESD) to raise, or a blocking card that wont change my equity, but will allow me to raise and not fear a re-raise.. IE the top pair pairing.

May be too thin with 77 though... 99 is better to do that with.

milesdyson 11-28-2007 08:09 PM

Re: i just ate ham and eggs (eggs and ham for those in UK)
 
You're assuming AJo+ and KQs bet every time and call a raise every time. AJo+ doesn't always bet, AJo+ doesn't always call a raise, and KQs basically never calls a raise.

The one thing I do like about that post is how you added 77 into the preflop 3-bettor's range to make your equities higher. That is straight out of my upcoming book called "Swaying The Masses For Advanced Posters."

Heisenb3rg 11-28-2007 08:13 PM

Re: i just ate ham and eggs (eggs and ham for those in UK)
 
rofl... I merely forgot to add 77 in the initial raising range... I thought its a definite 3-bet?

but yeah, raising 77 on the river is defintily too thin... 99 on the other hand...

waffle 11-28-2007 09:23 PM

Re: i just ate ham and eggs (eggs and ham for those in UK)
 
I don't really understand the OP. I don't see what my hand is unless it's Eggs and Ham. Am I supposed to decide what I'd do with every hand in my range? (BTW, I think this would make an awesome trend in poker discussion. Forget individual hands, let's decide how to play our ranges.)

Am I suppose to decide what I'd do with this range? { 88+, ATs+, KQs, AJo+ }

Am I clarivoyant, which allows me to know my opponent has 77?

I missed the boat here, but I must thank this thread for bringing out puzzles to remind me of the QQ on 995 debacle. I lol'ed.

vmacosta 11-28-2007 09:45 PM

Re: i just ate ham and eggs (eggs and ham for those in UK)
 
haha miles, you effed this post up. Villain was in HJ in the JoeTall thread and JoeTall was supposed to have LAG stats (according to DD).

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

134,640 games 0.006 secs 22,440,000 games/sec

Board: Tc 6d 5s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.244% 45.87% 00.38% 61753 510.00 { 55+, A8s+, KJs+, QJs, ATo+, KQo }
Hand 1: 53.756% 53.38% 00.38% 71867 510.00 { 9d9h }


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134,640 games 0.010 secs 13,464,000 games/sec

Board: Tc 6d 5s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.569% 49.18% 00.39% 66215 525.00 { 55+, A8s+, KJs+, QJs, ATo+, KQo }
Hand 1: 50.431% 50.04% 00.39% 67375 525.00 { 8d8h }


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136,620 games 0.004 secs 34,155,000 games/sec

Board: Tc 6d 5s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.241% 51.88% 00.36% 70876 495.00 { 55+, A8s+, KJs+, QJs, ATo+, KQo }
Hand 1: 47.759% 47.40% 00.36% 64754 495.00 { 7d7h }


Not sure why I included those PStoves and what point I am making (if any), but I just wanted to take some of the wind out of Miles' sails (or however the f that saying goes).

milesdyson 11-28-2007 09:48 PM

Re: i just ate ham and eggs (eggs and ham for those in UK)
 
Quoting myself from earlier:

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Yes, but I conveniently changed the hand in my favor. I made UTG actually UTG instead of HJ, so now SB's range is even more constricted.

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This will also be in STMFAP.

chezlaw 11-28-2007 09:58 PM

Re: i just ate ham and eggs (eggs and ham for those in UK)
 
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i just ate ham and eggs (eggs and ham for those in UK)

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