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YKMM 11-28-2007 12:01 PM

NL 100 - Overpair KK against bad TAG - He donks me
 
Villain is a 21/4/2.5 in 100 hands as too passive preflop, I did not see him play badly postflop. I really hate folding (or even calling) here but I am WAY behind when faced against the range KK-AA, AdKd. Do I make a fold here or am I reading way too much into his donk bet (which it in itself a rare occurence at NL100)?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($73.85)
Button ($77.75)
SB ($199.05)
BB ($20)
UTG ($89.15)
UTG+1 ($161.25)
MP1 ($102.05)
Hero ($88.10)
MP3 ($18.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $15</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $11.

Flop: ($32.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $18</font>, Hero ......

Makonnen 11-28-2007 12:16 PM

Re: NL 100 - Overpair KK against bad TAG - He donks me
 
<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre> equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.665% 49.83% 01.84% 12826 472.50 { KdKs }
Hand 1: 48.335% 46.50% 01.84% 11969 472.50 { QQ+, AdKd, AQs, AdJd, AdTd, AdKc, AdKh, AdKs, AhKd, AsKd, AQo }</pre><hr />
If you think he would do this with JJ (which I think is at least possible), you go up to 59%. If you think that he really only does this with AQ, QQ+ or two diamonds in that range, you go down to 49%. In any case, there's enough in the pot to make the coin flip +EV long term. Any raise commits you to the hand, so I think that I would rai sometimes and call/shove any non d, non A turn sometimes.

ship_it_trebek 11-28-2007 01:04 PM

Re: NL 100 - Overpair KK against bad TAG - He donks me
 
Shove. Reload preflop too. I think you're reading too much into his donk bet

Grinding2Ecstasy 11-29-2007 04:46 AM

Re: NL 100 - Overpair KK against bad TAG - He donks me
 
ez shove, i think makonnen covered it. If he has AA or QQ, so be it.

TwoToGo-Grave 11-29-2007 08:25 AM

Re: NL 100 - Overpair KK against bad TAG - He donks me
 
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ez shove, i think makonnen covered it. If he has AA or QQ, so be it.

[/ QUOTE ]
Well said.
It may just as well be AQs or something here. Dang, it may even be AK and he's testing the flop here.


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