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mimicme 12-01-2007 04:16 AM

30/60 . AT flopping top two pair
 
MP raises. I call on button w/ ATcc, SB calls.

Flop is A T 6 two spades. SB leads, MP raises, I flat call. SB calls.

Turn is a King off. SB and MP checks, I bet, SB folds, MP calls.

River is a King spades. MP checks, I check. He mucks.

Should I have 3 bet the flop? Should I bet the river? MP is pretty straight forward and tight. SB is pretty loose but not a maniac.

GBL 12-01-2007 05:33 AM

Re: 30/60 . AT flopping top two pair
 
i would 3b pf depending on the table.. DEF 3b on the flop then bet bet would be ok i suppose... but then again i play bad

JJH3984 12-01-2007 10:53 AM

Re: 30/60 . AT flopping top two pair
 
Readless, I'd fold preflop.

StrictlyStrategy 12-01-2007 02:54 PM

Re: 30/60 . AT flopping top two pair
 
If you aren't betting river then why are you calling preflop.

PF is never a call. 3b or fold, with folding being much better. I 3bet this flop.

amulet 12-01-2007 02:58 PM

Re: 30/60 . AT flopping top two pair
 
you fold preflop.

yes you bet the river, he showed no strength on the turn when the K hit and you bet, why would you not value bet the river?

rafiki 12-01-2007 04:22 PM

Re: 30/60 . AT flopping top two pair
 
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Readless, I'd fold preflop.

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borderline nittish though, AT suited on the button ? Would you 3ball AJs ?

And that flop is exactly the flop you need to jam with a flush draw and straight draw. raiser up

JJH3984 12-01-2007 04:39 PM

Re: 30/60 . AT flopping top two pair
 
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Readless, I'd fold preflop.

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borderline nittish though, AT suited on the button ? Would you 3ball AJs ?


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What do you think a typical MP raiser's range is at this level?

gaming_mouse 12-01-2007 05:29 PM

Re: 30/60 . AT flopping top two pair
 
river is an easy bet and i call a raise too.

3b the flop too but this is closer.

rafiki 12-01-2007 05:43 PM

Re: 30/60 . AT flopping top two pair
 
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Readless, I'd fold preflop.

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borderline nittish though, AT suited on the button ? Would you 3ball AJs ?


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What do you think a typical MP raiser's range is at this level?

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66-AA, AK-ATish, KQ, all suited broadway, and maybe suited A's as low as A8s. something like that. I'm certainly comfortable enough to play that hand on the button against that range.

cgrohman 12-01-2007 07:34 PM

Re: 30/60 . AT flopping top two pair
 
3 bet the flop


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