Two Plus Two Newer Archives

Two Plus Two Newer Archives (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/index.php)
-   The Lounge: Discussion+Review (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/forumdisplay.php?f=65)
-   -   Screen Writers Guild Strike? (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=537053)

KilgoreTrout 11-02-2007 04:02 PM

Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
It's set to begin at 1:30 PT according to their web page. Thoughts on how this will fare?

Dominic 11-02-2007 04:07 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
the only thing it will affect is Late Night programming like Leno and Letterman, as those shows rely on topical humor.

Most film and TV will not be affected, as studios have been aware of this possibility for awhile now and have stockpiled shows/scripts.

It would affect certain productions that are in no man's land - still being written, etc.

I used to be a member of the Writer's Guild and I think we threatened striking numerous times, although it never happened. I wasn't a member during the last strike.

I think one of the main bones of contention is the writers want residuals from online/computer airings of things they've written, as the last contract did not take into account the internet.

KilgoreTrout 11-02-2007 04:12 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Most film and TV will not be affected

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, I suspected the studios would have stuff in the can. New shows may suffer (e.g. Flight of the Conchords [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]).

[ QUOTE ]
one of the main bones of contention is the writers want residuals

[/ QUOTE ]

Heard an interview on NPR on this subject. Do SAG members get residuals for alternate formats?

Dominic 11-02-2007 04:19 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Most film and TV will not be affected

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, I suspected the studios would have stuff in the can. New shows may suffer (e.g. Flight of the Conchords [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]).

[ QUOTE ]
one of the main bones of contention is the writers want residuals

[/ QUOTE ]

Heard an interview on NPR on this subject. Do SAG members get residuals for alternate formats?

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't know about stupid actors and their contracts. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

KilgoreTrout 11-02-2007 04:26 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
T minus 4 minutes... gogogo

daveT 11-02-2007 05:21 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
Apparently, it is a huge issue, because I started hearing about it 6 months ago. And the word back then was they were doubtlessly striking.

Actually, this has been in the working for two years. Essentially, writer's in Hollywood are getting screwed out of money, thanks to every cheapening venture that the studios can think of: reality shows has been a huge revenue loss for writers and actors. Don't misunderstand, reality shows ARE scripted, but they are pre-shot long before they actually go on the air. I think that the studios are afraid of what U-tube and other sites of this sort are going to become. Too bad they don't follow in the Music Industries footsteps.

Here are some articles to look up with an excerpt:

Q. Forget everything else: What’s the one issue everyone needs to resolve here?

A. New media and the Internet. At the start of last Friday’s negotiations, WGA lead negotiator David Young boiled it down to this: “For a few decades now, there has been a growing feeling among writers that they are slowly being left behind. Every new technology or genre, instead of being treated as a new opportunity for mutual growth and benefit, is presented to us as some unfathomable obstacle that requires flexibility from writers — meaning a cheap deal that remains in place. This happened with home video. It happened with basic cable. It has happened with reality TV. Now you want it to happen with new media and the Internet.”

The producers want a coupla years to determine what new media’s big revenues might be, but offer to make any deal retroactive. AMPTP’s newest solution is to base new-media payments on what individual writers can negotiate with the studios and networks — presumably through their agents — all without any interference from the WGA.


Q. How will the strike affect TV viewers and moviegoers?

A. There’ll be a steady supply of films, because the Hollywood studios began preparing for this strike two years ago. As for TV, late-night talk shows will seem lamer than usual. Most scripted primetime series have at least eight to 12 completed episodes in the can. Some of the networks early on went into production on strike programming masquerading as midseason replacements (like ABC’s Cashmere Mafia ). NBC’s strike strategy was to stockpile episodes of familiar shows like The Office , My Name Is Earl , and Heroes . No wonder Fox is a strike hawk: It can’t wait for its walkout-unaffected blockbuster American Idol to return in January. Expect the other nets to put up crappy reality and game shows, news specials, old inventory and European programs.

http://www.laweekly.com/news/deadlin...e-happy/17550/

http://www.laweekly.com/news/news/wg...t-enemy/17549/

http://www.laweekly.com/news/deadlin.../17603/?page=2

CharlieDontSurf 11-02-2007 06:35 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
No more Saturday Night Live after this week

Most shows have Nov/Jan episodes in the can and then no more after that.

So LOST and 24 could be hit hard depending on how far they got along. Heroes Origins has already been canceled.

99% of what you see on TV in Feb and on will be reruns/reality tv.

And this strike will probably be long unless the AMPTP does an about face. If it gets to Feb then forget about it...at that point the WGA will just hold down till June so they can strike together with SAG.

best two sites to read up on it are

http://artfulwriter.com/
and
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/

jjshabado 11-02-2007 10:00 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
How does this effect people that are both writers and actors. I know a few of The Office actors also write scripts for it. Do they just stop writing and keep acting? Seems like a bit of a weird situation.

CharlieDontSurf 11-02-2007 11:45 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
[ QUOTE ]
How does this effect people that are both writers and actors. I know a few of The Office actors also write scripts for it. Do they just stop writing and keep acting? Seems like a bit of a weird situation.

[/ QUOTE ]

The show stops once they are out of scripts.
You can't have a show if there are no writers/scripts. also most of the TV showrunners have said they are striking so that is major because a showrunner does way way more than simply write episodes.

Its a big deal esp if this is a long strike which many predict it will be.

jjshabado 11-02-2007 11:48 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
How does this effect people that are both writers and actors. I know a few of The Office actors also write scripts for it. Do they just stop writing and keep acting? Seems like a bit of a weird situation.

[/ QUOTE ]

The show stops once they are out of scripts.
You can't have a show if there are no writers/scripts. also most of the TV showrunners have said they are striking so that is major because a showrunner does way way more than simply write episodes.

Its a big deal esp if this is a long strike which many predict it will be.

[/ QUOTE ]

Right, but my understanding was that at this moment in time most network shows have scripts stockpiled.

Duke 11-03-2007 12:25 AM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
They just want to take a month off for nanowrimo. Lazy bastards.

CharlieDontSurf 11-03-2007 01:39 AM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
How does this effect people that are both writers and actors. I know a few of The Office actors also write scripts for it. Do they just stop writing and keep acting? Seems like a bit of a weird situation.

[/ QUOTE ]

The show stops once they are out of scripts.
You can't have a show if there are no writers/scripts. also most of the TV showrunners have said they are striking so that is major because a showrunner does way way more than simply write episodes.

Its a big deal esp if this is a long strike which many predict it will be.

[/ QUOTE ]

Right, but my understanding was that at this moment in time most network shows have scripts stockpiled.

[/ QUOTE ]

No they don't. Movies yes..TV no
they have essentially another months, maybe 2, worth of scripts.

So they have no episodes for Jan/Feb on. and you simply can't write them all/shoot them all at once.

So TV is FUBAR. Late night shows are FUBAR. The EMMYs/Oscars are kinda FUBAR. Film can be FUBAR cuz there is no re-writing or touch up that can be done.

Dominic 11-03-2007 01:50 AM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
How does this effect people that are both writers and actors. I know a few of The Office actors also write scripts for it. Do they just stop writing and keep acting? Seems like a bit of a weird situation.

[/ QUOTE ]

The show stops once they are out of scripts.
You can't have a show if there are no writers/scripts. also most of the TV showrunners have said they are striking so that is major because a showrunner does way way more than simply write episodes.

Its a big deal esp if this is a long strike which many predict it will be.

[/ QUOTE ]

Right, but my understanding was that at this moment in time most network shows have scripts stockpiled.

[/ QUOTE ]

No they don't. Movies yes..TV no
they have essentially another months, maybe 2, worth of scripts.

So they have no episodes for Jan/Feb on. and you simply can't write them all/shoot them all at once.

So TV is FUBAR. Late night shows are FUBAR. The EMMYs/Oscars are kinda FUBAR. Film can be FUBAR cuz there is no re-writing or touch up that can be done.

[/ QUOTE ]

UPSIDE: I optioned a script last week - yay me!
DOWNSIDE: damn strike might [censored] up my chances yet again.

[img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

Aloysius 11-05-2007 03:28 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
IM just received from my friend at another studio:

"Jim Brooks is picketing outside my office right now."

Haha - he should just go and buy Fox instead.

-Al

Aloysius 11-05-2007 03:35 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
Oh - and from the Network perspective, this is a pretty good summary in Variety. Also CDS is pretty much spot on wrt TV (don't know the film side as well).

Current over / under 4 months I take the over but we shall see.

-Al

pryor15 11-05-2007 03:43 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
[ QUOTE ]


UPSIDE: I optioned a script last week - yay me!
DOWNSIDE: damn strike might [censored] up my chances yet again.

[img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

hey, at least it's something, right?


I'd like to point out that even though i'm big on unions, I'm not going to stop working on this damned script I'm working on, even if the strike is a perfect excuse.

CharlieDontSurf 11-05-2007 03:58 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
To give u an idea about how TV can be fubar'd even if they have stockpiled a month or two of scripts

this is a email that has been sent around and posted on several sites..artfulwriter/nikkifinke etc

"As you all know by now, we are on Strike. It's sad that we have arrived here and I don't know each and every one of your opinions, but I wanted to share my personal plans for what I intend to do until we have a fair contract.

I am currently quoted in today's Hollywood Reporter as saying that I will do some producing work, but won't do any editing as I consider that to be writing. While I said something similar to that earlier last week (I've learned you can't trust a word of what these trades report), that was before I went to the Showrunners Meeting yesterday and became very crystalized in what I need to do. Like many of you I have spent the last week contemplating what to do in case of a strike. What are my responsibilities to my writers, my cast, my crew, my network and my contract? How do I balance these various concerns?

At the Showrunners Meeting it became very clear to me that the only thing I can do as a showrunner is to do nothing. I obviously will not write on my shows. But I also will not edit, I will not cast, I will not look at location photos, I will not get on the phone with the network and studio, I will not prep directors, I will not review mixes. These are all acts that are about the writing of the show or protecting the writing of the show, and as such, I will not participate in them. I will also not ask any of my writer/producers to do any of these things for me, so that they get done, but I can save face.

I will not go into the office and I will not do any work at home. I will be on the picket line or I will be working with the Negotiating Committee. I will not have an avid sent to my house, or to a new office so that I can do work on my show and act as if it is all right because I'm not crossing any picket lines.

I truly believe that the best and fastest way to a good contract is to hit these companies early, to hit them hard and to deprive them of ALL the work we do on their behalf.

How do we ask our staff writers to go out on strike as we continue collecting producer checks? How do we ask the Teamsters to respect our picket lines if we won't ourselves or if we're sneaking around to do the work off-site?

Just so you all know what I am prepared to give up....

Tomorrow, we begin to film the Series Finale of The Shield. I think it's the best script our writing staff has ever written. This is the show that made me. This is the show that is my baby. If the strike goes on longer than two weeks, I won't be able to step on set for the final episode of the show. I won't have a writer on set, as I have had on every episode since the fourth episode. I won't be able to edit this final culminating episode. I won't go to the wrap party that Fox TV and FX are paying for. You can't tell me that any episode of television is more important than this one is to me, and I am ready to forego all those things in order to strengthen my union.

Tomorrow, we begin filming a new pilot, The Oaks, that I am Executive Producing. It's an amazing script that David Schulner wrote and I signed up to help him make this show. Until we have a fair deal I cannot do that now and it kills me.

We are currently filming Season 3 of The Unit, a show that does fairly well, but against House and Dancing With The Stars, usually finishes in 3rd place. We have no guarantee that we will back for a 4th season. I just gave a director friend of mine his first TV directing gig. I'd like to see him succeed. He'll have to finish the show on his own now without a writer on set, or my help in the editing room.

Some people have made the argument that if they don't do this producing work or this editing, that someone else will do it, and this act won't hurt the companies. I respectfully disagree. If we ALL stop ALL work tomorrow, the impact of this strike will be felt much more quickly, much more acutely and it most likely will end sooner, putting our writers, our cast and our crews back to work sooner!

I spent nearly 12 hours today in the Negotiation Room with the companies. I watched our side desperately try to make a deal. We gave up our request to increase revenue on DVD's, something that was very painful to give up, but something we felt we had to in order to get a deal made in new media, which is our future.

I watched as the company's representatives treated us horrendously, disrespectfully, and then walked out on us at 9:30 and then lied to the trades, claiming we had broken off negotiations.

I can't in good conscience fight these bastards with one hand, while operating an avid with the other. I am on strike and I am not working for them. PERIOD.

You will use your own instincts and consciences to decide your own actions. But if you would like to follow in my footsteps (and those of many, many others who made this pledge at the showrunner's meating on Saturday), I encourage you to sign the trade ad that the WGA will be putting out on Tuesday by the dozens and dozens of showrunners who will simply not work at all beginning in the morning."

Shawn Ryan showrunner of The Shield, The Unit

daveT 11-05-2007 04:02 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
Options are the bane of every screen writer I ever met. It seems like they all have one script optioned for four years. I used to congratulate them, I know better now.

They are picketing all over Hollywood right now. Just passed up some studios. Funny to see a truck pass through. How can they get any respect from a dude who is schlepping boxes all day?

Many TV scripts are done freelance. A freelancer writes a script on spec and the studios either takes it and have their team rewrite it or they reject it. Many shows, especially ones like SNL pay attention to current events. It helps with their spotenaity.

As unionized as the studios are, a camera operator can't even push a broom without permission from the Teamster's, etc, I doubt that the actors are going to be writing any new scripts either if they are in WGA.

The WGA is not a real union by the way. It is sort of like AFTRA (pay the 1k or whatever it is). The qualifications to join WGA is to write a script, have them library it, and pay the fee. The issue is that you would be a total retard to write your name in Hollywood without registering it first (many actors had to change their names because their name was not available through SAG). Everyone that has wrote any script at all in Hollywood is registered with WGA, so no one can work, and it would be automatic disqualification from the union and the end of your career, real or imagined, if you scabbed.

Dominic 11-05-2007 04:15 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Options are the bane of every screen writer I ever met. It seems like they all have one script optioned for four years. I used to congratulate them, I know better now.



[/ QUOTE ]

Hey, it's $3500 for six months with an option to renew for another 6 months. Options like this have helped pay my bills for over 15 years. I'd rather have the damn thing optioned and out there than sitting in my desk.

Dominic 11-05-2007 04:15 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
good for Shawn Ryan! I'm really looking forward to The Shield's final season, too...

pryor15 11-05-2007 04:22 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'd rather have the damn thing optioned and out there than sitting in my desk.

[/ QUOTE ]

no kidding. ignore the haters, dom [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

daveT 11-05-2007 05:27 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
I am not hating!

I think it is that most screenwriters feel like they aren't accomplishing anything with their script just sitting there. I would be ecstatic to get 10k a year for having my script sit on someone's desk. Funny thing all over Hollywood. Some actors actually make their living by going on and failing auditions and some screenwriters make their living optioning scripts. Put five out on option and make 50k for the next five years? Sounds nice to me.

I have wrote screenplays and I can appreciate how hard it is. I understand that writers are writing for the goal of seeing their work on screen, not for the money, and when I say congrats they get mad at me for this reason. Artists as a whole are a semi-depressed bunch, you know?

pryor15 11-05-2007 05:47 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Artists as a whole are a semi-depressed bunch, you know?

[/ QUOTE ]

only semi-depressed? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

daveT 11-05-2007 05:56 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Artists as a whole are a semi-depressed bunch, you know?

[/ QUOTE ]

only semi-depressed? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

Forgot to add: After they see the psych doc.

Dominic 11-05-2007 06:36 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I am not hating!

I think it is that most screenwriters feel like they aren't accomplishing anything with their script just sitting there. I would be ecstatic to get 10k a year for having my script sit on someone's desk. Funny thing all over Hollywood. Some actors actually make their living by going on and failing auditions and some screenwriters make their living optioning scripts. Put five out on option and make 50k for the next five years? Sounds nice to me.

I have wrote screenplays and I can appreciate how hard it is. I understand that writers are writing for the goal of seeing their work on screen, not for the money, and when I say congrats they get mad at me for this reason. Artists as a whole are a semi-depressed bunch, you know?

[/ QUOTE ]

[censored] you!

[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

CharlieDontSurf 11-05-2007 07:04 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I am not hating!

I think it is that most screenwriters feel like they aren't accomplishing anything with their script just sitting there. I would be ecstatic to get 10k a year for having my script sit on someone's desk. Funny thing all over Hollywood. Some actors actually make their living by going on and failing auditions and some screenwriters make their living optioning scripts. Put five out on option and make 50k for the next five years? Sounds nice to me.

I have wrote screenplays and I can appreciate how hard it is. I understand that writers are writing for the goal of seeing their work on screen, not for the money, and when I say congrats they get mad at me for this reason. Artists as a whole are a semi-depressed bunch, you know?

[/ QUOTE ]


[/ QUOTE ]

most options aren't 10K.

Thug Bubbles 11-05-2007 07:05 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
[ QUOTE ]
good for Shawn Ryan! I'm really looking forward to The Shield's final season, too...

[/ QUOTE ]

No kidding! To not be there for a series finale of a show that absolutely MADE you and has been with you for 7 years? Part of me thinks they should make up a list of exemptions, Ryan and his Finale being one of them.

Dominic 11-05-2007 07:21 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I am not hating!

I think it is that most screenwriters feel like they aren't accomplishing anything with their script just sitting there. I would be ecstatic to get 10k a year for having my script sit on someone's desk. Funny thing all over Hollywood. Some actors actually make their living by going on and failing auditions and some screenwriters make their living optioning scripts. Put five out on option and make 50k for the next five years? Sounds nice to me.

I have wrote screenplays and I can appreciate how hard it is. I understand that writers are writing for the goal of seeing their work on screen, not for the money, and when I say congrats they get mad at me for this reason. Artists as a whole are a semi-depressed bunch, you know?

[/ QUOTE ]


[/ QUOTE ]

most options aren't 10K.

[/ QUOTE ]

no [censored]. Most so-called producers always want a free option. I'll tell them their more than welcome to try and find funding for my script, but if you want an exclusive option you're going to have to pay for it. I've found that people put in the exact amount of work on a project that they spent optioning it!

Blarg 11-05-2007 08:18 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
This is so true for so many other things in life too. It's kind of bizarre, but it drives an awful lot of things. Very often people simply find it impossible to value something that's free or freely given.

jessicaalbiel 11-06-2007 09:52 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
Anyone know if the Wire and Lost are coming back on schedule? I can live without the rest of the [censored] that's on tv right now

Runkmud 11-06-2007 11:07 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
The Wire has wrapped up already, so thank God for that, should air in January. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

OrigamiSensei 11-07-2007 06:42 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I have wrote screenplays

[/ QUOTE ]
I know this is a little un Lounge-like, but - [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

daveT 11-07-2007 06:50 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I have wrote screenplays

[/ QUOTE ]
I know this is a little un Lounge-like, but - [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Right back at cha!

Dominic 11-07-2007 07:16 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I have wrote screenplays

[/ QUOTE ]
I know this is a little un Lounge-like, but - [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Right back at cha!

[/ QUOTE ]

I think he's calling into question your grammar, Dave.

"written"

Blarg 11-07-2007 07:18 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
He's saying that he himself is puzzled at how that happened.

daveT 11-07-2007 07:21 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
I never said they were good (or well written).


OrigamiSensei 11-07-2007 09:57 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
Eh. My grammar nittishness aside, whether a screenplay is good or not has everything to do with things like plot and a good ear for dialogue and darned little to do with an occasional grammatical error. It would be silly to judge someone's ability as a screenwriter based on some random post in an internet forum. I simply couldn't resist and didn't mean to hijack.

aside: On the subject of good screenplays I think dialogue is a particularly hard thing to deal with. How does one write plausible dialogue in an artful fashion without it seeming artful? It doesn't work to make the dialogue too realistic, or else it's boring and sounds silly. On the other hand overly precious dialogue is just as bad. A particular movie I remember having the problem of over-realistic dialogue was a forgotten movie "Frankie and Johnny" (with Al Pacino and Michelle Pfeiffer if I recall correctly). I remember feeling that the screenwriter had actually perfectly captured the way these people would really talk but in doing so rendered it virtually unwatchable. So many long pauses, "uhs", and other hitches in the timing made it grating to the ear. Certain writers like Sorkin and Mamet have mastered writing dialogue that you know is artful when you're watching it, but not so artful or precious that it wrecks the scene. Unfortunately in today's movies high concept often replaces the interaction of the characters. /aside

back on track: All of which has pretty much zero to do with a writer's strike. On that subject it's no surprise that the studios don't want to pay on new media even though fairness demands that they should be doing so. On the other hand having a father who was a union worker who went through several strikes and seeing the results of many other strikes my belief is that the overall cost of striking to the worker almost always outweighs the benefit of the eventual negotiated settlement. It's also going to affect a lot of other people in the industry who stand to gain nothing from the writer's settlement and have everything to lose by shows not being in production. The networks will simply put on some other schlock and continue to profit and I have no doubt the movie studios will find a way to make their money as well.

Blarg 11-07-2007 10:55 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
Unions are pretty weak these days, and striking is always harsh on everyone. It's definitely not a first choice of action. But sometimes it's the only way to get any response, whether it be regarding matters of life and health like work safety or more "trivial" things like keeping up with rising costs of living or preserving medical benefits. Unfortunately, or at least some would think so, conflict is built into our economic system and inescapable without completely gutting one social class or another and rendering their prospects hopeless.

Kimbell175113 11-07-2007 11:10 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
[ QUOTE ]
They just want to take a month off for nanowrimo. Lazy bastards.

[/ QUOTE ]
[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Yeti 11-07-2007 11:14 PM

Re: Screen Writers Guild Strike?
 
hope this wasn't posted already, i didn't read the thread(!)

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-s...6966.htmlstory

good link showing the status of each show


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:23 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.