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-zero- 07-11-2007 11:24 PM

Deep 5/10 vs. Donk
 
The BB has taggish stats, but he is a ridiculously terrible player. I've seen him get it in several times in horrible spots with bad hands. The SB is a 70/5/.5 after 100 hands. I've seen him play two big hands, one he got it in on the turn with the nuts, the other he min-raise bluffed the river with A-high. I'm really at a loss with what to do on the river. Thanks in advance for any help.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
zero: $1881
UTG+1: $1530
CO: $1000
Button: $2850.80
SB: $4647.20
BB: $1000

Pre-flop: (6 players) zero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">zero raises to $35</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $145</font>, zero calls, SB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($435, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">zero bets $325</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($1085, 2 players)
SB checks, zero checks.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1085, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $1300</font>

teh_mewse 07-11-2007 11:26 PM

Re: Deep 5/10 vs. Donk
 
so disgustingly filthy. Since villian is 70/5/0.5 i pray he has QJ or KJ and call.

Folding is reasonable but i can't imagine folding to this villian

fearless2k 07-12-2007 02:20 AM

Re: Deep 5/10 vs. Donk
 
hmm i lean towards a fold here, A10 910 flushes got there, and looking at the bet size on river looks too big to be a bluff. fishes/donks in my experiance dont tend to overbet a lot unless they have it (the ones that do i call maniacs :P) so its a judment call, vs a maniac this is insta call for me, against other types of player this is leaning closer to a fold.

maybe a bet (if Sb CR AI fold??) on turn and check behind on river?

Jamougha 07-12-2007 02:25 AM

Re: Deep 5/10 vs. Donk
 
Folds without too much thought. He didn't miss a draw since they all hit and a big scary bet from a passive player is gonna be the nuts a lot

tuuufts 07-12-2007 03:50 AM

Re: Deep 5/10 vs. Donk
 
Yeah I really don't see what you're beating here. I don't think he's overbet bluffing on a board like this and he certainly isn't betting AA/AK for value. Sucks but it's a fold.

edit- sorry thought sb was the pfr. this changes things a little but i still fold

Big_Jim 07-12-2007 04:46 AM

Re: Deep 5/10 vs. Donk
 
Bet more on the flop so you can push for a PSB on the turn when a blank hits.

Even though the turn card sucks, I'd consider a small bet, since this guy is probably never c/ring on a bluff, you can fold, and hell, sometimes you can shove the river, if you're feeling it.

As played... I shrug and fold when this guy makes this play, if those stats are over any long term range of hands.

FGators 07-12-2007 12:15 PM

Re: Deep 5/10 vs. Donk
 
Probably fold preflop.

Since every draw got there I think this is an annoying fold.


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