25/50 vs crablar
 

no real history between us, I have some idea how he plays from his posts but that's all

PokerStars Game #10980373316: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2007/07/17 - 00:01:47 (ET)
Table 'Achilles IV' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: $tinger 88 ($7341 in chips)
Seat 2: n_tzzvicodin ($725 in chips)
Seat 3: Hold_emNL ($5007 in chips)
Seat 4: sweetluvin7 ($7791 in chips)
Seat 5: Any2Cards ($1000 in chips)
Seat 7: BONCELA ($1791 in chips)
Seat 8: poopers ($15802 in chips)
Seat 9: CrAbLaR ($14292 in chips)
sweetluvin7: posts small blind $25
Any2Cards: posts big blind $50
sarkaar: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to $tinger 88 [Ac Qs]
BONCELA: folds
poopers: folds
CrAbLaR: raises $100 to $150
$tinger 88: calls $150
n_tzzvicodin: folds
n_tzzvicodin leaves the table
Hold_emNL: folds
sweetluvin7: folds
Any2Cards: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qd 3s Ad]
CrAbLaR: bets $300
$tinger 88: raises $600 to $900
CrAbLaR: calls $600
*** TURN *** [Qd 3s Ad] [4d]
CrAbLaR: checks
$tinger 88: bets $1650
CrAbLaR: calls $1650
*** RIVER *** [Qd 3s Ad 4d] [Jh]
CrAbLaR: bets $2250

about 4700 effective left on river

Re: 25/50 vs crablar
 

I dislike the turnbet...as for river, that [censored] is strange, I'd just fold this. I think he's too good to do an ACTUAL blocking bet here against someone he knows is very good/thinking but which he has little history with (which would be a perfect opponent to make this induce against), it's way more likely to be an induce imo.

In the heat of the moment, though, given the betsize, I think even I would often end up calling out of confusion, but I really think that ends up badly more often than not (as in often enough to make it -ev.)

Re: 25/50 vs crablar
 

really? man w stinger's image i would be so tempted to jam for value.

if he slowplays a flush i would think he always checks it on the river. looks like AJ

Re: 25/50 vs crablar
 

Honestly, if it is a fake non-flush blockingbet (i.e that is one that is going to call) I'd assume it's likely something like AA/QQ/33 and AxJd (I doubt he raises AxTd and/or gets passed turn with that even), and against that range, raising for value is still not good. I guess AxKd would be possible to, but I find that one to be less likely to fire river given the chance of stinger having A3, which the other hands do well against.

Re: 25/50 vs crablar
 

I think Crablar is making a questionable blocking type bet just often enough with something like AQ, AJ, or AxKd for you to call. I don't really like a raise at all for whatever reason, I think he could easily have a small flush and will call with it (he's very aggro but does sometimes get tricky with big hands) and he's not bad enough to call that often with the weaker 2 pair hands.

I like your turn bet, he'll definitely be calling with pair/flush draw a pretty high percentage of the time.

Re: 25/50 vs crablar
 

I shove

Re: 25/50 vs crablar
 

i'd just calll out of utter confusion

Re: 25/50 vs crablar
 

i really don't see much value in raising, your line looks pretty strong and i think you'll only get looked up by a better hand here. i'm leaning towards just a call here, although you could make an argument for folding

Re: 25/50 vs crablar
 

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I shove

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u is nasty

Re: 25/50 vs crablar
 

I call, don't see much value in shoving without history.
it might be a blockingbet, but he also might be inducing a shove. I dont think there are many worse hands he bet-calls here with.

i wouldnt fold here because we are getting good odds and I can really see him having a hand like AJ here. seems strange for him to check-call a flush on the turn and then donk the river.