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trojanrabbit 06-14-2007 09:15 PM

New Tysen Streib Book: Kill Everyone
 
I figure it should be cool for me to post this here since 2+2 has been my stomping grounds for a couple of years.

I wanted to announce that I have a new book coming in the next few months, along with Kill Phil authors Lee Nelson and Kim Lee. The new book is called Kill Everyone and is much more than a sequel to Kill Phil. While Kill Phil features long ball strategies, Kill Everyone focuses on small ball and advanced techniques for MTT’s, SNG’s, and satellites.

We’ve also got a bonus chapter by Mark Vos on 6-max NLHE cash game strategy.

This has been a big project for me and I’m very pleased with how it turned out. It has a ton of cool stuff in it that has never been seen before in print. And if you’re familiar with my work from the 2+2 Magazine, you know it will have nice graphs and charts explaining advanced concepts in an easy to understand manner.

Tysen Streib

curious123 06-14-2007 09:57 PM

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Can't wait, T. Cool that you're working w/ Kim.

uDevil 06-14-2007 11:02 PM

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Interesting. Not enough info. Spill.

r1base14 06-15-2007 04:18 PM

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Timeline for publishing?

bigdaddydrew 06-15-2007 06:07 PM

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Tip 1 from Mark Vos, buy in for 1 Big Blind?

That said, I am very intrigued.

BigBuffet 06-15-2007 10:47 PM

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I heard Mason is working on a new book "Kill Snyder"...

Sorry, couldn't resist [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

JJay1231 06-16-2007 03:10 AM

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excellent. I thought Kill Phil was a good book that could have been a great book, hopefully this fills in the gaps. But in reality I think there is enough "small ball" info in books these days (Harrington etc), so Im not sure how valuable it will be in that respect. But advanced concepts for satellites and SnG's is a welcome addition to Poker literature as there really isn't much (if anything) written on those topics at the moment.

trojanrabbit 06-16-2007 10:59 PM

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Interesting. Not enough info. Spill.

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Can't give all that much detail right now, but you remember those Prego commercials? "It's in there."

Lots of stuff from the analysis of all different prize structures and how that affects play to many different techniques for chip accumulation.

Timeline looks like a few months. I'll give more info when I can.

Tysen

BackedUp 06-17-2007 09:26 PM

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We’ve also got a bonus chapter by Mark Vos on 6-max NLHE cash game strategy.

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LOL

Glad to see you have a sense of humor

7n7 06-17-2007 09:59 PM

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I think there is enough "small ball" info in books

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Not I.

On another note, Kill 'Em All sounds better but Metallica woulda' sued.

JJay1231 06-17-2007 11:15 PM

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(LOL have that one in my collection [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img])

I cant see anything new that can be added regarding small ball, but ill be looking forward to it anyway.

Gildwulf 06-18-2007 10:07 AM

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umm....you might want to consider a new title

paulish 06-28-2007 10:14 AM

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Fantastic! I love your articles Tyson and I've been waiting for a book for a long time....

TheDna 06-28-2007 11:48 AM

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Kill Phil was a nice read and i found the book title interesting and it made some sense.
Kill Everyone sounds more like a book about running amok, really think about that title. There are alot of "killing poker" "Kill the game" etc books out there mostly total trash you should find something better to differ from the trash books :/

MASTERHOLMES 06-29-2007 08:04 PM

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I would agree in changing the title as the first one was about destroying the small ball tactics of the phils in tourment play.

Here you are going to be teaching small ball as opposed to the long ball of kill phil so a differnt focus should be used.

how about "save phil" or "new school poker" or how about "phil is dead, long live phil "
for me I Been looking for a small ball book for a long time,
have you looked at the small ball section of daniel negrenu dvd to see if his concept of small ball and yours match up ?.
I would be sure the theories would be the same but the application would be differnt ?.

am I safe to assume that it would be focused on cash games, and no limit hold them for the most part?.
or it would it be a section on there on how to be a phil in tourments as well?.

and finally will it have a section on there on how to defend against "kill phil" tactics!!!

RobertJohn 06-30-2007 01:28 AM

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But in reality I think there is enough "small ball" info in books these days

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I cant see anything new that can be added regarding small ball

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I think you guys are way wrong on this one. There still is a lot yet to be written about tournament tactics (esp. in the middle/late stages where a lot of weird stack scenarios come up).

Tysen, I’ve enjoyed your articles in the 2+2 magazine and can’t wait for a book-length treatment of some of the subjects you’ve gone over.

Very stoked!

892King 06-30-2007 12:54 PM

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We’ve also got a bonus chapter by Mark Vos on 6-max NLHE cash game strategy.

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no offense, but isn't it Hit N Run?

derosnec 06-30-2007 01:47 PM

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all this long ball, small ball stuff is silly

just put opponent on a range, think of range he puts you on, consider pot/stack size, and play acordingly.

MASTERHOLMES 08-09-2007 05:08 AM

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is there an update to when this book is coming out?

I been wiating for some info on it, the last two weeks:) [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

trojanrabbit 08-10-2007 10:26 PM

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is there an update to when this book is coming out?

I been wiating for some info on it, the last two weeks:) [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Exact date is not fixed, but it looks like early September is likely.

Tysen

MASTERHOLMES 08-30-2007 08:54 AM

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it says on amazon that the title release date is january o8,
that is about october,november, december, and january ,, four months from the september release date.

is the work finished?
holy cow 348 pages?, is that because of the intricies of small ball approach?.

I noticed advanced strategies for sit-n-goes if "for no limit 'em poker tourament" is taken about in between.
would that means that half of the book is seperated between between tourament and sit-n-goes? or these concepts like in the kill phil book can be applied to both??.

and finally because of the sit-n-goes strategies would it address some, or any issues that you may have had with the two plus two book "sit'n go strategy"?.

also I am interested in what you personally Tysen Streib bring to the table in this kill everyone title, and how it is that you came on board.
(i am guessing it is something to do with your post flop, turn and river skills ?) ehhe

I am only asking these question in depth for I liked the kill phil book so much.

curious123 08-30-2007 10:57 AM

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it says on amazon that the title release date is january o8

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AceMason 08-30-2007 10:08 PM

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We’ve also got a bonus chapter by Mark Vos on 6-max NLHE cash game strategy.

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LOL

Glad to see you have a sense of humor

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trojanrabbit 09-01-2007 12:47 AM

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it says on amazon that the title release date is january o8

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That's not right. We're done and it's at the printers. I'd be really surprised if it's not out by the end of September.

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holy cow 348 pages?, is that because of the intricies of small ball approach?

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We got a ton of stuff in it. You will not be disappointed. Steven Brust once said that there are 4 types of books: popcorn, steak, caviar, and celery. Although he was talking about fiction writing, I definitely see this as steak. And a big ol’ slab too.

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would that means that half of the book is seperated between between tourament and sit-n-goes? or these concepts like in the kill phil book can be applied to both??.

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A vast majority of the book has strategies that apply to all tournament types. But there are several sections that give specific advice for SNG’s, MTT’s, and satellites.

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and finally because of the sit-n-goes strategies would it address some, or any issues that you may have had with the two plus two book "sit'n go strategy"?

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I only just started reading Moshman’s book, so I can’t really comment on that. I’m sure you’ll get value out of both.

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also I am interested in what you personally Tysen Streib bring to the table in this kill everyone title, and how it is that you came on board.
(i am guessing it is something to do with your post flop, turn and river skills ?) ehhe

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Actually it was more for my math and game theory skills. My specialties are in calculating optimal solutions and in how the payout structure should affect your strategy. I’ve written a lot of popular articles in the 2+2 magazine and Lee was impressed with my work here. He was thinking of writing another book, liked my style, and was wondering if I’d like to work with him on his next project. And thus the team was born.

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I am only asking these question in depth for I liked the kill phil book so much.

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No problem. I need to be posting more here anyway now that the work is done. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Tysen

Borknagar 09-03-2007 07:46 AM

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Could you give us like an index/chapters list?

did you keep the title? I hope not.

trojanrabbit 09-04-2007 11:54 PM

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Could you give us like an index/chapters list?

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Part One: Early-Stage Play
1 New School versus Old School
2 Specific Guidelines for Accumulating Chips (Big chapter w/ lots of goodies)

Part Two: Endgame Strategy
3 Basic Endgame Concepts
4 Equilibrium Plays
5 Kill Phil: The Next Generation
6 Prize Pools and Equities
7 Specific Strategies for Different Tournament Types
8 Short-Handed and Heads-Up Play
9 Detailed Analysis of a Professional SNG

Part Three: Other Topics
10 Adjustments to Recent Changes in No-Limit Hold ’Em Tournaments
11 Tournament Luck
12 Playing Against Better Players
13 Tells and Reads
14 Tournament Preparation

Part Four: Online Short-Handed No-Limit Hold ’Em Cash Games


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did you keep the title? I hope not.

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Yeah, we did. We debated a bit about it, and I don't think it's so bad.

Tysen

curious123 09-05-2007 07:34 AM

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T, what will be the quickest way to get a hold of this, through HP?

dirty banana2007 09-05-2007 01:39 PM

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Damn! and here i was thinking my list of books-to-get was finally sealed!...along comes another must have book!

trojanrabbit 09-05-2007 11:24 PM

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T, what will be the quickest way to get a hold of this, through HP?

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Probably a safe bet

daveT 09-06-2007 08:11 PM

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You should have called it "Kill Phil (Ivey)," but he probably would have the same sense of humor about it.

Did you guys get to meet Phil Hellmuth? What was he like? There's not much you can say to tarnish his image, you know.

Professionalpoker 09-06-2007 09:32 PM

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T, what will be the quickest way to get a hold of this, through HP?

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Probably a safe bet

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I can think of one supplier that will have it within a day of HP and they participate in the forums! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

MASTERHOLMES 09-10-2007 07:06 AM

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hail.

i noticed amazon moved the date to sept 30 instead of next year..
yay.

i want an advanced review as quick as possible please when it comes out,
(so i will know if it is better then kill phil, or at least just as good).

Professionalpoker 09-11-2007 05:18 PM

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Just spoke to the publisher and scored a cover photo and back cover text. I am told we are about 4 weeks away.
Linky

JJay1231 09-12-2007 06:16 AM

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how long does it usually take for PP to deliver to Australia?

Adman 09-12-2007 07:35 AM

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They are VERY fast. I've ordered a few things from them. Faster than Amazon that's for sure.

TheDna 09-12-2007 07:30 PM

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damn the capters sound good will get this one so much to read atm ..

trojanrabbit 09-13-2007 12:51 AM

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It looks like Lee posted a more detailed TOC over at the Kill Phil site, so I guess I can post that here too. The page numbers refer to the manuscript, the book itself has 348 pages.

Introduction 1

<u>Part 1: Early Stage Play 4</u>
Chapter 1: Accumulating Chips 5
Play a lot of Speculative Hands Early 8
Playing Tight Early to Establish an Image 9
The Big Move 9
Know the Odds 10
Fold Equity 12
Fear Equity 14
Winning a lot of Small Pots 16
Winning a Few Big Pots 17
The Threat of the Set 20
Bet Sizing of Bluffs and Monsters 23
Optimal Bet/Bluff Sizing 25
The Scandinavian Mini-Raise Bluff 27
The Blocking Bet 29
Making Big Laydowns 30
Chapter 2: Specific Guidelines for Accumulating Chips 33
Ten Pointers for Building Your Stack 33


<u>Part 2: End Game Strategy 43</u>
Introduction 44
Chapter 3: Basic Endgame Concepts 45
Looking at Your Stack: CPR and CSI 45
Changing Your Play with CSI 46
Playing the Normal Stage 49
Playing the Semi-Aggressive Stage 49
Playing the Aggressive Stage 50
Playing the Move-in Stage 53
Playing the Special Stage 54
Differences in Hand Values For Raising Versus Calling 56
Chapter 4: Equilibrium Plays 59
Equilibrium Plays: A Word About the Math 59
An Introduction to Equilibrium Play 60
Equilibrium Play: Moving in Far From the Money 65
Using the Equilibrium Solution in Practice: The Power Number 67
When Your Opponents Don’t Play Optimally 69
Chapter 5: Kill Phil: The Next Generation 70
Long Ball vs. Small Ball 70
Big Pushes on the Flop 72
Chapter 6: Prize Pools and Equities 76
How the Prize Structure Affects Your Decisions 76
Calculating Prize Pool EV 78
Do I Really Need to Worry About This Non-Linearity? 81
Is It Getting Bubbly In Here? 82
Bubble Factors in SNG’s 84
How the Hell Am I Supposed to Calculate These Factors? 86
Bubble Factors in Super Satellites 91
Bubble Factors in MTT’s 92
Bubble Factors: Putting It All Together 95
Calling All-In Raises 100
Calling with Pocket Deuces 104
Chapter 7: Specific Strategies for Different Tournament Types 105
Introduction 105
Specific Strategies for SNG’s: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bubble 107
Bubble Play in SNG’s 108
Equilibrium Steals From the Button on the Bubble 109
Exploitive Steals From the Button on the Bubble 112
How Often Do Players Raise? 115
Advanced SNG Tactic: Keeping the Small Stack Alive 116
Specific Strategies for Multi-Table Tournaments: Predators vs. Prey 116
Multi-Table Tournaments: the Final Table 119
Specific Strategies for Super Satellites: How to Fold Your Way Into Easy Money 120
Chapter 8: Short-Handed and Heads-up Play 125
Short-Handed Play with Deeper Stacks 125
Heads-Up Play 128
Heads-Up For the Move-in Stage 129
What About Raises Smaller Than All-in? 132
Heads-Up With Deeper Stacks 136
Chapter 9: Detailed Analysis of a Professional SNG 141
The Full Tilt Monte Carlo Invitational 141
Monte Carlo Invitational: Summary 163

<u>Part 3: Other Topics 164</u>
Chapter 10: Adjustments to Recent Changes in No-limit Hold’Em Tournaments 165
Steal from Under-the-Gun (UTG) 165
Be Prepared to Sometimes Re-re-Steal 165
The UTG Limp/Re-raise 166
Limping with Big Hands When Short-stacked 169
Check/Raise Semi-Bluff on the Turn 169
Picking Off Continuation Bets 170
Sizing Bets to Put Your Opponent’s Stack at Risk 171
Using Bet Sizing to Deprive Players of Fold Equity 172
Chapter 11: Tournament Luck 173
Chapter 12: Playing Against Better Players 176
Kill Phil Style 176
Countering Aggression with Aggression 177
Keep Fold Equity on Your Side 180
Have the Courage of Your Convictions 181
Playing Against “Hyper-LAGs” 185
Defending Against the Hyper-LAG 186
Chapter 13: Tells and Reads 189
Chip Tells 189
All-in Tells 192
Physical Tells 196
Reverse Tells 198
Moves to Induce a Call or Fold 199
Chapter 14: Tournament Preparation
Overcoming Jet Lag 202
Diet and Supplements for Cognitive Enhancement 204
Zen and Poker 206
I-Pod or Not? 207


<u>Part 4: Online Short-handed No-limit Hold’em cash Games 210</u>
Chapter 15: Online Short-handed No-limit Hold’em Cash Games 211
Introduction 211
Pre-flop 212
The Flop 219
Turn Play 222
River Play 225
Bankroll Management 229
Multi-tabling 230
Online Poker Tools 231

<u>Appendices</u>
Appendix 1: Equilibrium Solution for Moving in Far from the Money 234
Appendix 2: Equilibrium Calling Strategies for Far from the Money 237
Appendix 3: Assumed Rank Order for Pushing Hands 240
Appendix 4: Assumed Rank Order for Calling Hands 241
Appendix 5: Limitations of ICM 242

deacsoft 09-13-2007 08:38 PM

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In the future please provide a link to that kind of information rather than posting it here. Thanks.

MyTurn2Raise 09-17-2007 01:23 AM

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that TOC just blew my mind

cannot believe most of that stuff will be in print on a non-internet forum form of media

hopefully, this book isn't that popular

Shandrax 09-17-2007 04:52 AM

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Two things:

A. Sorry Tysen, but that title qualifies for most terrible book title ever and I hope it wasn't designed to appeal to a certain target group of players (uneducated macho type)

B. What I never understood about game theory in Hold'em was that a correct calling frequency also means that you have to have a bluffcatcher a certain amount of times. In contrast to draw poker where most examples for game theory come from, it's tough to make a hand in Hold'em, even a bluffcatcher, and very often the opponent is bluffing with the best hand. Let's say your math tells you that you are required to call in x% of the cases, but your mix of hands has you fold most small pairs on the flop and take a lot of busted draws to the river, so in many cases you don't even have a hand to call with. Are you adressing such things in the book?

The obvious solution would be to either take more low pairs or less draws to the river. In each case though, it would mean making a -EV play on the respective hand. Well, I guess that is what ballancing is all about after all...


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