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recallme 11-05-2007 05:02 PM

Someone really took the reversed donk recallme style vs me
 
Villain was new to me and was 18/13/0,8 over 80 hands, so nothing special yet.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $2034
Hero: $1958
CO: $777
Button: $2180.35
SB: $2611
BB: $2135.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $70</font>, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($150, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $110</font>, BB calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($370, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $280</font>,

I am not that much interested in the turn line, but more in the turn+river line.

How do we extract most value?
Just 3bet
call and raise all non J or d rivers
or call call?

I doubt someone`s folding it anywhere, right?

MATT111 11-05-2007 05:05 PM

Re: Someone really took the reversed donk recallme style vs me
 
I would give this villain a lot of credit and actually fold the river if he bets big again.

NLMan 11-05-2007 05:15 PM

Re: Someone really took the reversed donk recallme style vs me
 
I am a noob to those limits and trying to learn myself.
I doubt I am folding it (maybe to a river all-in), but I don't understand why he is betting into you here. Can anyone explain?

AJ not wanting you to check the turn behind for pot control? (most likely IMHO)

Bluff? (does not look very bluffy, especially from a nit)

KT trying to get some value and not wanting to get outdrawn? (does not seem very typical for 0.8 aggro)

KJ semi-bluffing his new draw (although, this seems even less typical for 0.8 aggro).

Maybe even a heavily slowplayed 22/KK/QQ scared of being outdrawn? (very unlikely)

WelshChip 11-05-2007 05:33 PM

Re: Someone really took the reversed donk recallme style vs me
 
FOLD

ike 11-05-2007 07:19 PM

Re: Someone really took the reversed donk recallme style vs me
 
minraise/fold-to-shove

11-05-2007 07:37 PM

Post deleted by Mat Sklansky
 

FiSheYe 11-05-2007 08:23 PM

Re: Someone really took the reversed donk recallme style vs me
 
Kinda wa/wb situation. Only hands that have much outs are OESD+Pair. Call Turn and raise any K, Q river. If a blank comes on the river and he bets again smallish I would consider a call, tough against big bets here cuz he doesn't seem to bluff much (some previous hands/reads would help a lot). If he checks a blank river I would bet/fold (only if this 0.8 is valid tho) and if he fires any A, J, T river I would fold (mostly even a 9). Kinda ABC poker imho with the small reads you provided

WelshChip 11-05-2007 08:37 PM

Re: Someone really took the reversed donk recallme style vs me
 
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why lol?

Dale Dough 11-05-2007 08:55 PM

Re: Someone really took the reversed donk recallme style vs me
 
Nit or not, how the [censored] does he have OP beat? He has to have called OOP with a gutshot, just check-called 22 AND decided on this donkey line (and have it in the first place [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]) or peeled one off with TT. All unlikely IMO. I'm saying KJ/QJ/JT, MAYBE KT/QT.

I vote call and raise riv, because that looks kind of weird and I wouldn't be surprised to see two pair pay it off. At the same time, it gives him the opportunity to fire QJ and JT if he misses and realizes he's no good.

11-05-2007 09:03 PM

Post deleted by Mat Sklansky
 


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