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Hebel 11-27-2007 02:51 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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They were softish up at NL200 tonight, but I had to quit cuz I was playing dumb.

And that's a pretty solid day there FMA. vnh.

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I played all night, so the way i feel today makes it feel like a losing session :P.

I'm just glad to recover some of my downswing [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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post that AA hand, that was awesome

dawade 11-27-2007 02:53 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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And that's a pretty solid day there FMA. vnh.

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ShipitFMA 11-27-2007 02:54 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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They were softish up at NL200 tonight, but I had to quit cuz I was playing dumb.

And that's a pretty solid day there FMA. vnh.

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I played all night, so the way i feel today makes it feel like a losing session :P.

I'm just glad to recover some of my downswing [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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post that AA hand, that was awesome

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Lol, which one?


oh?

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: $35.45
Hero (UTG): $142.35
CO: $52.20
BTN: $129.70
SB: $23.25

Pre-Flop: Ahttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, 3 folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.25) 6http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 3http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 8http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $9</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $28</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $33.45 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $5.45

Turn: ($71.15) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($71.15) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $71.15 Pot ($2 Rake)
BB showed Qhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 9http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (a flush, Queen high) and LOST (-$35.45 NET)
Hero showed Ahttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a full house, Aces full of Sixes) and WON $69.15 (+$33.70 NET)

Yeah i hit runner runner, wut it do

Hebel 11-27-2007 02:55 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
turn A river 6 AA&gt;Q9

derosnec 11-27-2007 03:04 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
and the list of regs on stars who hit and run me keeps growing

this week we add:

tehskies
sorinaccio
kerrydo

also, it has become laughable how bad i run in 3bet pots. either i have KK against some euronit who slowplays AA or i get coolered or some tard 2 or 3 outers me. all month long. i'm down 28 BIs for november (and i fixed alot of leaks early in the month), after finishing sept and oct with 5 ptbb/100 winrates. end of my obligatory daily whine.

vixticator 11-27-2007 03:30 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Every time I take a day off from poker I see 12 posts about how soft the games are that day.

[/ QUOTE ]I had a bunch of loose tables earlier tonight then all the tags invaded again. It seems to just come and go at random.

thedopplegangers 11-27-2007 03:43 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Games seem really soft/loose tonight.

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I'd say it's been like that all day.

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/c...ett/Fishes.jpg [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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hmmm i guess both of the dopplegangers run good today

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/9193/ptstatsyg7.png

bazooka87 11-27-2007 04:14 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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But I think I'm on track for top 100 monthly tlb, just need one more decent result to really clinch it I think.

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2nd in a $15 freezeout for $1500ish and an extra 300 tlb points [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
We made a deal three handed and when we were heads up I told him I needed tlb points, he said he needed them to so I say ok gl. We then proceed to get it all in preflop...and my A6 loses to 56o [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
But I think I've got enough tlb points to make top 100

vixticator 11-27-2007 04:31 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Heh I'm 8 tabling 5nl, I remember this being harder. I take back any comments about 25nl being easier I said in the past. Wow. This is fun as [censored].

vixticator 11-27-2007 05:59 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Should I move down?

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/927/5nlolps9.png

DockDD 11-27-2007 06:17 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
What do you guys use for a default 3-bet size with a caller in between? I usually just mash the pot button knowing they'll call with Ax or 66, but I'm taking some shots and it feels big. Maybe shave a couple/few BBs off pot?

eg SB .25 BB .50 raise 1.75 call 1.75, I make it $7.00?

catoandtonic 11-27-2007 06:17 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Should I move down?

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/927/5nlolps9.png

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You need to make some adjustments to your play at this level.

I will mainly focus on blind play with a little post flop advice. You need to play your small blind close to 100% of the time. Calling almost any raise is mandatory since you get a discount. Obviously, we will call ALL raises from the bb since we are already committed. If everyone limps, then you must min-raise from your sb to take control of the hand. This is especially true for suited cards because we want to start to build a pot in case they hit. The exceptions to this are when you have a monster such as QQ-AA. Then just limp along or call. Post flop you will check/call flop and turn so not to tip people of your strength. Once you get to the river, we will only have this one street to get value out of our monster so we need to spring our trap. Just push or raise all in. No one will suspect you have AA-QQ.

Also, don't forget that AK is also a limping hand. If the flop comes with all rag cards, calling a pot sized bet is perfectly fine on flop and turn because you deserve the pot because you were dealt AK. If you fold to these bets, then you will lose with AK WAY too often. Hope this helps. Cheers.

kolotoure 11-27-2007 07:31 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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What do you guys use for a default 3-bet size with a caller in between? I usually just mash the pot button knowing they'll call with Ax or 66, but I'm taking some shots and it feels big. Maybe shave a couple/few BBs off pot?

eg SB .25 BB .50 raise 1.75 call 1.75, I make it $7.00?

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I make it 7.5-8

kroeliewoelie 11-27-2007 08:01 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
This weekend I started playing on the iPoker network. There is really a huge difference with the Microgaming(Prima) network.

Microgaming: a lot of maniacs with VPIP &gt; 40%. Playing here is hitting a hand and getting paid off. Don't try to make people fold. They won't (at 20NL).

iPoker: a lot of 12/8 nits that really suck postflop. I am comfortable with second barreling a lot and am actually generating a lot of folds. This is really amazing, because it never happens on Prima. I have the feeling I can outplay people here.

My W$WSF is 35% or so on Prima and 48% on iPoker.

I am curious how people compare other networks? Is Prima by far the most insane network or is iPoker that weak-tight? And how does this compare to other networks like Party, Stars and Fulltilt?

Wilpro 11-27-2007 08:10 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
75%+ of people on stars are 50vpip/5pfr at 10nl. Most seem intent on winnings everyhand they play and only fold to continuation bets when you flop the nuts.

ama0330 11-27-2007 08:12 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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This weekend I started playing on the iPoker network. There is really a huge difference with the Microgaming(Prima) network.

Microgaming: a lot of maniacs with VPIP &gt; 40%. Playing here is hitting a hand and getting paid off. Don't try to make people fold. They won't (at 20NL).

iPoker: a lot of 12/8 nits that really suck postflop. I am comfortable with second barreling a lot and am actually generating a lot of folds. This is really amazing, because it never happens on Prima. I have the feeling I can outplay people here.

My W$WSF is 35% or so on Prima and 48% on iPoker.

I am curious how people compare other networks? Is Prima by far the most insane network or is iPoker that weak-tight? And how does this compare to other networks like Party, Stars and Fulltilt?

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Sounds like youd be better off at microgaming?

kroeliewoelie 11-27-2007 08:35 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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[ QUOTE ]
This weekend I started playing on the iPoker network. There is really a huge difference with the Microgaming(Prima) network.

Microgaming: a lot of maniacs with VPIP &gt; 40%. Playing here is hitting a hand and getting paid off. Don't try to make people fold. They won't (at 20NL).

iPoker: a lot of 12/8 nits that really suck postflop. I am comfortable with second barreling a lot and am actually generating a lot of folds. This is really amazing, because it never happens on Prima. I have the feeling I can outplay people here.

My W$WSF is 35% or so on Prima and 48% on iPoker.

I am curious how people compare other networks? Is Prima by far the most insane network or is iPoker that weak-tight? And how does this compare to other networks like Party, Stars and Fulltilt?

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Sounds like youd be better off at microgaming?

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It's not really that I am better off there. I am clearing a bonus, got 100 dollars for free and have won 10 buyins in a few thousand hands. But it's a different game. I am stealing a lot of blinds and pushing people off their hands. Because of this I am still getting paid on my good hands. People are easier to read because they are very, very straightforward.

Without even thinking about it my play style went from 16/13 (Microgaming) to 20/18 (iPoker).

But since I am planning to bonuswhore a little bit in the next few months, I am wondering what I have to expect from other sites.

thing85 11-27-2007 09:19 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
dero, your downswing sounds similar to the one I had a while back (~32 BIs I think). Here's a graph to hopefully give you hope for an upswing:

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9016/downyl1.jpg

From 100k to 135k, my bankroll took a huge dive. Since then, I feel like I've really improved my game and I think you can see the difference in variance (and win rate obv). FWIW, this graph represents about 6 months of play.

kaz2107 11-27-2007 09:37 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[censored] my stats class is boring and uselss

kolotoure 11-27-2007 09:44 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
god i just butchered a flopped trips hand

ICMoney 11-27-2007 09:45 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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[censored] my stats class is boring and uselss

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It's prob a good class - today is just variance.

Uploading vid now.

With post link tonight.

creamfillin 11-27-2007 10:09 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
The worst feeling in the world is being down and not being able to play because of tests/other stuff.


[censored]

ama0330 11-27-2007 10:16 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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The worst feeling in the world is being down and not being able to play because of tests/other stuff.


[censored]

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http://www.gamblersanonymous.org/images/galogo.jpg

bazooka87 11-27-2007 10:19 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Woooooo just won a $12 180 man, ship the 2.5k day

kolotoure 11-27-2007 10:32 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I am playing another 50nl reg hu. grudge match ftw

kolotoure 11-27-2007 10:38 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
skibbel: you're better than i'm clearly
skibbel: But ur play was really big tilty
theukgrinder: no i'm not
theukgrinder: sit in
skibbel: nop
skibbel: don't wanny play u anymore

sigh. he quit me

ama0330 11-27-2007 10:42 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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skibbel: you're better than i'm clearly
skibbel: But ur play was really big tilty
theukgrinder: no i'm not
theukgrinder: sit in
skibbel: nop
skibbel: don't wanny play u anymore

sigh. he quit me

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o snap

derosnec 11-27-2007 10:50 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
skibbel is such a nit. i have him at like 12/10. loves to slowplay sets on drawy flops too. and his ivey avatar tilts me.

anyways, i signed up for Leggopoker today and am cancelling my subscription to CR because the the FP/Brystmar/MW/SNG/LHE vids don't do anything for me and aba/cts don't make many vids. i'm sure you were all dying to know that.

LG87 11-27-2007 10:53 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
anybody knows a hand converter for hh's from the microgaming network?

anyway, here's a standard beat

- GBO23 sitting in seat 1 with 31.99
- madjime sitting in seat 2 with 6.35
- Eriklaag sitting in seat 3 with 9.90
- bengbula sitting in seat 4 with 12.10 [Dealer]
- LG87 sitting in seat 5 with 12.68
- professore75 sitting in seat 6 with 13.53

LG87 posted the small blind - 0.05
professore75 posted the big blind - 0.10
Eriklaag posted to play - 0.10
** Dealing card to LG87: King of Hearts, King of Spades
GBO23 folded
madjime folded
Eriklaag checked
bengbula called - 0.10
LG87 raised - 0.65
professore75 folded
Eriklaag folded
bengbula raised - 1.20
LG87 went all-in - 12.08
bengbula went all-in - 10.90

** Dealing the flop: 8 of Diamonds, Queen of Diamonds, 5 of Clubs

** Dealing the turn: 4 of Spades

** Dealing the river: 4 of Diamonds

bengbula shows: 4 of Clubs, King of Clubs
LG87 mucks:
bengbula wins 23.18 from the main pot

End of game 1737013733

derosnec 11-27-2007 10:55 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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dero, your downswing sounds similar to the one I had a while back (~32 BIs I think). Here's a graph to hopefully give you hope for an upswing:

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9016/downyl1.jpg

From 100k to 135k, my bankroll took a huge dive. Since then, I feel like I've really improved my game and I think you can see the difference in variance (and win rate obv). FWIW, this graph represents about 6 months of play.

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looks like i am down 17 buy-ins, not 28 (was including my bad run at 100nl as 50nl, like counting 1 buyin as 2 50nl BIs). of those 17 buy-ins, about 8 are bad play and in retrospect i was not capitalizing on a ton fo stealing opportunities (i'm not perfect, okay people). nonetheless, it's the 3bet pots that put me over the edge last night (like when you're 0 for 1,000,000 in 3bet pots, a person tends to tilt a little [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]).

dawade 11-27-2007 11:13 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9016/downyl1.jpg


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Must. obtain. similar graph!

kroeliewoelie 11-27-2007 11:37 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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anybody knows a hand converter for hh's from the microgaming network?

anyway, here's a standard beat

- GBO23 sitting in seat 1 with 31.99
- madjime sitting in seat 2 with 6.35
- Eriklaag sitting in seat 3 with 9.90
- bengbula sitting in seat 4 with 12.10 [Dealer]
- LG87 sitting in seat 5 with 12.68
- professore75 sitting in seat 6 with 13.53

LG87 posted the small blind - 0.05
professore75 posted the big blind - 0.10
Eriklaag posted to play - 0.10
** Dealing card to LG87: King of Hearts, King of Spades
GBO23 folded
madjime folded
Eriklaag checked
bengbula called - 0.10
LG87 raised - 0.65
professore75 folded
Eriklaag folded
bengbula raised - 1.20
LG87 went all-in - 12.08
bengbula went all-in - 10.90

** Dealing the flop: 8 of Diamonds, Queen of Diamonds, 5 of Clubs

** Dealing the turn: 4 of Spades

** Dealing the river: 4 of Diamonds

bengbula shows: 4 of Clubs, King of Clubs
LG87 mucks:
bengbula wins 23.18 from the main pot

End of game 1737013733

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http://learnhowtoplaypokerfree.com/convert/convert.cgi

Mr_Pathetic 11-27-2007 12:23 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Funny hand I thought I would share that doesn't really belong in BBV or deserve its own thread. Pretty sure I played it terrible against these two guys. THe SB guy had me on tilt from an earlier hand but once button raised and SB went AI I thought I had to call. Of course I get there and then get rivered. I told my friend watching me river would pair the board and sure enough it did lol.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

MP: $34.45
CO: $12
BTN: $18.80
SB: $35.05
Hero (BB): $25.15
UTG: $20.55

Pre-Flop: 7http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, BTN calls $0.25, <font color="red">SB raises to $1.25</font>, Hero calls $1, BTN calls $1

Flop: ($3.75) 5http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $3</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $9</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $17.55 and is All-In</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $33.80 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $14.90 and is All-In

Turn: ($69.10) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($69.10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $69.10 Pot ($3 Rake)
BTN showed 2http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a full house, Twos full of Fives) and WON $53.60 (+$34.80 NET)
SB showed Jhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif Jhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (two pair, Jacks and Fives) and LOST (-$25.15 NET)
Hero showed 7http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a straight, Eight high) and WON $12.50 (-$12.65 NET)

hennnerz 11-27-2007 12:25 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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skibbel is such a nit. i have him at like 12/10. loves to slowplay sets on drawy flops too. and his ivey avatar tilts me.

anyways, i signed up for Leggopoker today and am cancelling my subscription to CR because the the FP/Brystmar/MW/SNG/LHE vids don't do anything for me and aba/cts don't make many vids. i'm sure you were all dying to know that.

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Should I sign up on their site or via 2p2 if there is such a way?

I don't wanna miss out on anything free...

thing85 11-27-2007 12:27 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9016/downyl1.jpg


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Must. obtain. similar graph!

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I don't know about you, but I could've definitely been fine without that big downswing.

thing85 11-27-2007 12:30 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Woooooo just won a $12 180 man, ship the 2.5k day

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How do you have the patience to play so many of these donkaments? Looked you up on poker rankings and you seem to be doing pretty well. I don't cash in 5 in a row (which is very very typical as you know) and I'm like "[censored] this, I don't want to play these."

ShipitFMA 11-27-2007 12:37 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Woooooo just won a $12 180 man, ship the 2.5k day

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How do you have the patience to play so many of these donkaments? Looked you up on poker rankings and you seem to be doing pretty well. I don't cash in 5 in a row (which is very very typical as you know) and I'm like "[censored] this, I don't want to play these."

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They appear to be fun when you run hotter than god.


I think in next month im going to try play alot of 12 / 180's i imagine them to be fairly profitable

Spurious 11-27-2007 12:46 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
1. watch the new HSP episode
2. play a session
3. you wish me luck
4. ????
5. profit

ShipitFMA 11-27-2007 12:48 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Anyone want to play a 12 / 180 with me?

ama0330 11-27-2007 12:50 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Anyone want to gouge out their eyes with a rusty fork with me?

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