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wpr101 08-18-2007 10:43 AM

NL600 What to do with this two pair?
 
Villian is luckytofu. He plays 18/4 and goes to showdown 25%.

The notes I have are that he once limped utg then called a huge raise from me (BB) after using his time bank. In another hand he minraised the turn on a AsKs5 board and I folded.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

wpr101 ($645)
Button ($627.65)
SB ($179.40)
BB ($261.10)
UTG ($1413)
MP1 ($914.05)
MP2 ($670.50)

Preflop: wpr101 is CO with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">wpr101 raises to $24</font>, Button calls $24, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $18.

Flop: ($75) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">wpr101 bets $54</font>, Button calls $54, BB folds.

Turn: ($183) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">wpr101 bets $169</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $338</font>, <font color="#CC3333">wpr101 raises to $567</font>, Button calls $211.65 (All-In).

River: ($1282.30) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $1282.30

BT2 08-18-2007 11:07 AM

Re: NL600 What to do with this two pair?
 
i think you played it fine. villain does not appear to be very good so you are ahead here more than you are behind.

OT: what is your biggest accomplishment in tournaments?

wpr101 08-18-2007 11:16 AM

Re: NL600 What to do with this two pair?
 
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OT: what is your biggest accomplishment in tournaments?

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A 14k cash in the Wednesday nightly once. Played in WSOP ME this year but didn't place. Why do you ask?

FireStorm 08-18-2007 11:39 AM

Re: NL600 What to do with this two pair?
 
Play here seems fine, you can't really find a turn fold.

BT2 08-18-2007 11:40 AM

Re: NL600 What to do with this two pair?
 
i know you play tournaments and i know you play high stakes fr. i was wondering whether you built your roll through tournament success, then jumped into the bigger games or if you grinded your way up.

wpr101 08-18-2007 11:49 AM

Re: NL600 What to do with this two pair?
 
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i know you play tournaments and i know you play high stakes fr. i was wondering whether you built your roll through tournament success, then jumped into the bigger games or if you grinded your way up.

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I rarely play tournaments anymore. My PokerTracker doesn't work for tournaments and I don't know why.

I actually built up my roll from playing sit and gos way back when. Trasitioned to 1/2 NL 6 max when the sngs began to dry up. Of course a big tourney score doesn't hurt, but playing tournaments can also drain your bankroll due to the variance.

Renton 08-18-2007 12:30 PM

Re: NL600 What to do with this two pair?
 
i don't think you can fold this button vs cutoff.

Its so close to being a fold though.

FireStorm 08-18-2007 01:57 PM

Re: NL600 What to do with this two pair?
 
It's marginally close to being a fold, but not to a donkish minraise when he has little left behind and he can easily have A3, or be overplaying AK etc.

wpr101 08-18-2007 03:23 PM

Re: NL600 What to do with this two pair?
 
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It's marginally close to being a fold, but not to a donkish minraise when he has little left behind and he can easily have A3, or be overplaying AK etc.

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Nice read, he had AK.

Mike Kelley 08-18-2007 04:33 PM

Re: NL600 What to do with this two pair?
 
So you guys wouldn't of gotten stacked in position with AK in that spot? At what point would you guys of played it differently.

TheProdigy 08-18-2007 04:46 PM

Re: NL600 What to do with this two pair?
 
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So you guys wouldn't of gotten stacked in position with AK in that spot? At what point would you guys of played it differently.

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Preflop raise.

Mr_Donktastic 08-18-2007 04:52 PM

Re: NL600 What to do with this two pair?
 
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So you guys wouldn't of gotten stacked in position with AK in that spot? At what point would you guys of played it differently.

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I would have 3 bet preflop and then gotten stacked if he called but it would be a more +ev stacking.

To OP: looks standard, I would pretty much never fold here unless villain is a huge nit.

Renton 08-18-2007 05:35 PM

Re: NL600 What to do with this two pair?
 
i think i'd have bet less on the turn. I think a good player can get off AQ with your 2/3 pot flop followed by almost pot sized turn.

This is why i was saying it was close to a fold, bc you are repping two pair+ with that bet.

In general I'd bet the same % on the turn as on the flop here. Nitpicking etc.

Mike Kelley 08-18-2007 06:45 PM

Re: NL600 What to do with this two pair?
 
Yeah 3b preflop I would of too.


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