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sethypooh21 09-18-2007 10:47 PM

AKs gets 3-bet by tight tag...wtf?
 
villain is 19/15 nit/tag. WTF can he have here that beats me?

PokerStars 5/10 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (13.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.50 B

shane88888 09-18-2007 10:50 PM

Re: AKs gets 3-bet by tight tag...wtf?
 
He went nuts with two sixes?

sethypooh21 09-18-2007 10:54 PM

Re: AKs gets 3-bet by tight tag...wtf?
 
Yourface was screaming at me that the turn raise was too much at the time.

TheHip41 09-18-2007 10:56 PM

Re: AKs gets 3-bet by tight tag...wtf?
 
AK, A6, A2, A7, 66, 22.

On the turn, I think you should probably call, and fold the river U/I

I think the river A is not an improvement vs. his range.

Turn raise is bad, you have the nut low

SteveL91 09-18-2007 10:56 PM

Re: AKs gets 3-bet by tight tag...wtf?
 
Given the description, I think the turn play is too much. The line in general is fine, but I don't think it's correct in this instance. River call is good though.

bigmac366 09-18-2007 10:57 PM

Re: AKs gets 3-bet by tight tag...wtf?
 
given his image and the turn play, i'm tempted to get a case of mubs and think a set of aces. river immediately rules that out though.

so whats your image at the table, if your really lagging it up even a nit will stand up to you with AQ or worse.....i'm insta raising this river and calling a 3-bet. i expect to see a split, AQ or AJ, way more often than a set of sixes or dueces.

so to summarise raise/call

sethypooh21 09-18-2007 10:59 PM

Re: AKs gets 3-bet by tight tag...wtf?
 
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On the turn, I think you should probably call, and fold the river U/I


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TheHip41 09-18-2007 10:59 PM

Re: AKs gets 3-bet by tight tag...wtf?
 
[ QUOTE ]
given his image and the turn play, i'm tempted to get a case of mubs and think a set of aces. river immediately rules that out though.

so whats your image at the table, if your really lagging it up even a nit will stand up to you with AQ or worse.....i'm insta raising this river and calling a 3-bet. i expect to see a split, AQ or AJ, way more often than a set of sixes or dueces.

so to summarise raise/call

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you can't be serious.

a 19/15 can have A6, or A2, or A7, or 66, or 22.

The river changes nothing. As played, you should be FOLDING the river, not raising.

If your only choices were to raise or fold this river, I believe folding the river would be a more +EV play after that PF, flop, and turn action.

Anyone that raise/calls this river hates money alot.


anyone else think you should fold the river?

bobhalford 09-18-2007 11:00 PM

Re: AKs gets 3-bet by tight tag...wtf?
 
I just call down from the flop 3bet. Your hand is good, but he knows when you raise the flop that you have an ace, and obviously he doesn't care.

bigmac366 09-18-2007 11:00 PM

Re: AKs gets 3-bet by tight tag...wtf?
 
my original post was a grunch.....

seems like many of the old guard disagree with me. the only hand i'm really afraid of on the turn is AA. i just dont think a 19/15 3 balls you with A6, A7, 66, 22.

i'm also wrong ALOT.


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