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cortjstr 08-30-2006 12:51 AM

QJs late position short stacked..facing big overbet
 
First off sorry about converter, couldn't get it to work.

This is a $2 tourny on party and I just took a beat and lost alot of chips.

When I played the hand I thought because of my stack size and the fact that I put him on A10 or maybe an over pair made my call automatic. Now I'm not so sure, I'm thinking maybe it wasn't the best play.

Also, Im not a big fan of raiseing preflop with paint...should this have been a preflop push..

thanks in advance for the help...


Table Regular(813149) Table 15 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 6: cortjstr (2253)
Seat 7: DavidC0802 (15604)
Seat 8: Dr_L9 (15897)
emaelstrom posts small blind (150)
Wwymb posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to cortjstr [ Qh, Jh ]
cortjstr calls (300)
DavidC0802 calls (300)
Dr_L9 raises (600) to 600
Wwymb calls (300)
cortjstr calls (300)
DavidC0802 calls (300)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Th, 9s, 4c ]
Wwymb checks.
cortjstr checks.
DavidC0802 bets (3000)
Dr_L9 folds.
Wwymb folds.
cortjstr calls (1653)
cortjstr is all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ As ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Tc ]

davidwrunner 08-30-2006 12:57 AM

Re: QJs late position short stacked..facing big overbet
 
I can find a fold here pre flop - early position
Alternatively a push but not a call.
As played - With all those callers and then a miniraise - again a push is better.

Dunkman 08-30-2006 01:20 AM

Re: QJs late position short stacked..facing big overbet
 
Yeah you just can't limp with 7 BBs in your stack. Once you got to the flop, you simply have to push this draw.

cortjstr 08-30-2006 09:30 AM

Re: QJs late position short stacked..facing big overbet
 
bump for days

AceLuby 08-30-2006 09:34 AM

Re: QJs late position short stacked..facing big overbet
 
You are in push or fold mode PF, why limp? That could be a HUGE leak.

mornelth 08-30-2006 09:47 AM

Re: QJs late position short stacked..facing big overbet
 
Just push the flop. That's THE ONLY reason to even be in this hand WITHOUT pushing it all-in preflop.

Stack < 10x BB - push or fold. NO LIMPING. NO CALLING MIN-RAISES. PUSH - or FOLD.

Here you have 7BB's and your hand is good enough to open-push IMO. Just do it.

with tight calling ranges for next 7 players (TT+,AQs+,AKo) and somewhat looser ranges for the blinds this push is actually +EV. I push this and hope I get called and get lucky enough to double up, since my stack at this point is not worth much and I'd really like to get some chips.

I do not hate the fold though since it's UTG.

Edit : as long as you called the push - I do not mind the flop line. I still like the push better, even though you do not have much FE at all.

HerbieGRD 08-30-2006 09:53 AM

Re: QJs late position short stacked..facing big overbet
 
With 7BB in your stack it is push/fold time - I would fold UTG or UTG+1 but any later than that I think it is a push

skier_5 08-31-2006 04:22 AM

Re: QJs late position short stacked..facing big overbet
 
3 handed and <10bb you need to shove this pf.


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