KK - 4 bet, Ace high flop
 

villain - 34/12/4 - 77 hands
hero - 21/19 over the same 77 hands

I really should have a good plan for these spots, but I have nothing. What is best: c/c, c/f? What if he checks behind what is our plan on the turn?

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $442.71
CO: $147.40
Button: $51.37
SB: $91.40
BB: $189.60

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $10</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $45</font>, CO calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($91.5, 2 players)
Hero ?

Re: KK - 4 bet, Ace high flop
 

Given his aggression and stack sizes, I CRAI on the flop. He can show up with flush draws and may well turn TT or whatever into a bluff on the flop. Most players like this don't minreraise hands like AK/AQ preflop.

Re: KK - 4 bet, Ace high flop
 

What is villains 3bet preflop range? Is there any history? Much ahead or very behind obv. History please.

Re: KK - 4 bet, Ace high flop
 

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What is villains 3bet preflop range? Is there any history? Much ahead or very behind obv. History please.

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This the first time he has ever 3-bet me. No other history.

Re: KK - 4 bet, Ace high flop
 

i like a CRAI, i don't see him calling that huge 4 bet with AK so you gotta put him to a decision for all his chips

Re: KK - 4 bet, Ace high flop
 

bump.. not my thread but I think this is an interesting spot.

Re: KK - 4 bet, Ace high flop
 

c/f. of course he can have AK here

Re: KK - 4 bet, Ace high flop
 

i think i like c/c one street. hes very unlikely to call with worse. im not sure how likely he is to bet with worse. [censored] spot


nevermind, pots is already so huge that if he bets anything normal sized then were committed if we call.

Re: KK - 4 bet, Ace high flop
 

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i think i like c/c one street. hes very unlikely to call with worse. im not sure how likely he is to bet with worse. [censored] spot


nevermind, pots is already so huge that if he bets anything normal sized then were committed if we call.


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So what is your advice?

Re: KK - 4 bet, Ace high flop
 

The problem with c/c is if he has jj/qq, I think he wants to see SD as badly as Hero does, not turn his hand into a bluff. If he bets here it will be for value far more often then to push hero off a better hand, so I'd c/f.

I've been out of poker for a few months so I'm not sure if this is way off =/