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skibbel 11-15-2007 10:27 AM

nl50sh: 3-bet pot vs \"the cleaner\"
 
I've read in a thread about him that he runs 22/19/4, 4 of 6 player at the tables are regulars. One bad player UTG+1.

I was 5-6 hands at the table, the first hand i played, i raised 2 limpers to 3$, he reraised from the sb to 9$ (rigged size...?).

Assuming his 22/19 stats, and betsizes, i think he's 3-betting light.

Seat 1: smee0815 ($98.90 in chips)
Seat 2: Fredd20 ($53.75 in chips)
Seat 3: dugo19870629 ($17.50 in chips)
Seat 4: skibbel ($50 in chips)
Seat 5: the clęaner ($123.15 in chips)
Seat 6: LeeJamesAce ($23.95 in chips)
LeeJamesAce: posts small blind $0.25
smee0815: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to skibbel [XX]
Fredd20: folds
dugo19870629: calls $0.50
skibbel: raises $2 to $2.50
the clęaner: raises $5.50 to $8

What's your calling/4-betting range at this point?
I'm not interested in UTG+1, cause i think he will fold always, and i think he knows that too.

*** FLOP *** [6h 7s 4s]
skibbel: ....

What do u think is the best line with
... 66/77/44 (i know i can't setmine preflop!)
... 55
... 99
... JJ?

I think if he's 3-betting light, he might c-bet this board a lot, also with Overcards.

corsakh 11-15-2007 10:30 AM

Re: nl50sh: 3-bet pot vs \"the cleaner\"
 
Where is your idea that raising to $9 is light coming from?

skibbel 11-15-2007 10:35 AM

Re: nl50sh: 3-bet pot vs \"the cleaner\"
 
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Where is your idea that raising to $9 is light coming from?

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I don't understand.

ama0330 11-15-2007 10:36 AM

Re: nl50sh: 3-bet pot vs \"the cleaner\"
 
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Assuming his 22/19 stats, and betsizes, i think he's 3-betting light.

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Heres the problem imo, you dont really know anything for sure. The whole core of your assumption is that you know his light 3bet range, when you actually know nothing of his range at all.

If hes likely to be holding a wide range and you want to bluff, put in a small 4bet.

If hes likely to be holding a wide range and you want to play for value, call him preflop and trap him on the flop ldo.

But mostly, FOLD.

Also, your table selection is laughable, 4 out of 6 are regulars??? Play somewhere else dude!

corsakh 11-15-2007 10:37 AM

Re: nl50sh: 3-bet pot vs \"the cleaner\"
 
What makes you think that 9 is light?

ama0330 11-15-2007 10:38 AM

Re: nl50sh: 3-bet pot vs \"the cleaner\"
 
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What makes you think that 9 is light?

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Yeah, looks like a standard 3x raise to me. Not everyone mashes the pot button, I personally type all my 3bets.

corsakh 11-15-2007 10:40 AM

Re: nl50sh: 3-bet pot vs \"the cleaner\"
 
Hello ama, its 21 century.
You can you a mouse/wheel button to set your bets [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

skibbel 11-15-2007 10:41 AM

Re: nl50sh: 3-bet pot vs \"the cleaner\"
 
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Also, your table selection is laughable, 4 out of 6 are regulars??? Play somewhere else dude!

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Regular != good.

ama0330 11-15-2007 10:43 AM

Re: nl50sh: 3-bet pot vs \"the cleaner\"
 
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Regular != good.

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4 of 6 player at the tables are regulars. One bad player UTG+1.

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o rly

skibbel 11-15-2007 10:44 AM

Re: nl50sh: 3-bet pot vs \"the cleaner\"
 
Wtf, really funny that people advice folding, without knowing my hand.


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