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sauce123 10-23-2007 03:18 AM

One of those river decision where fold/call/raise options
 
villain is running like 26/19 seems competent at least but not particularly good (i mean look at preflop). my image should be completely lag awful/tricky but Ive shown down a few winners lately. Ok, so fold, call or raise? for the lazy among u guys riv bet is a bit over 1/3 pot.



Seat 1: Sauce123 ($1165.05 in chips)
Seat 2: Realt0r ($912.65 in chips)
Seat 3: BgRed1215 ($627 in chips)
Seat 4: gambler2k4 ($1007.60 in chips)
Seat 5: Stoweski ($600 in chips)
Seat 6: Svorger1 ($786.30 in chips)
BgRed1215: posts small blind $3
gambler2k4: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Sauce123 [Th Td]
Stoweski: raises $15 to $21
Svorger1: calls $21
Sauce123: raises $63 to $84
Realt0r: folds
BgRed1215: folds
gambler2k4: folds
Stoweski: folds
Svorger1: calls $63
*** FLOP *** [2h 7d 3h]
Svorger1: checks
Sauce123: bets $120
Svorger1: calls $120
*** TURN *** [2h 7d 3h] [Ad]
Svorger1: checks
Sauce123: checks
*** RIVER *** [2h 7d 3h Ad] [6s]
Svorger1: bets $162

jfish 10-23-2007 03:20 AM

Re: One of those river decision where fold/call/raise options
 
intuitively i want to fold.

cheer 10-23-2007 03:21 AM

Re: One of those river decision where fold/call/raise options
 
why are we not betting this turn?

rand 10-23-2007 03:24 AM

Re: One of those river decision where fold/call/raise options
 
i think fold, and a raise is prolly only good with history
i think call is pretty bad

DCal Zone 10-23-2007 03:26 AM

Re: One of those river decision where fold/call/raise options
 
It's prob like A4 or A5 possibly with hearts. I'd fold cause I don't think he'll fold to a shove. I don't think most donks make a blocking bet here with a worse hand, pretty sure he'd just check worse pairs on the river.

sauce123 10-23-2007 03:31 AM

Re: One of those river decision where fold/call/raise options
 
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It's prob like A4 or A5 possibly with hearts. I'd fold cause I don't think he'll fold to a shove. I don't think most donks make a blocking bet here with a worse hand, pretty sure he'd just check worse pairs on the river.

[/ QUOTE ]

hes not like a legit donk tho

id guess he reads 2p2

ALReturnsLOL 10-23-2007 03:32 AM

Re: One of those river decision where fold/call/raise options
 
This is somewhat what his range looks like pf imo.

KdKh,KdKs,KhKs,QQ-99,77,AJs+,T9s,98s,AQo+

Flop I could see him c/c with

QcQs,QdQs,QhQs,JJ-99,77,AhQh,AhJh,Th9h,9h8h

turn I could see him checking his whole range

river he could donk out with something like

77,AhQh,AhJh,Th9h,9h8h

if he had a medium pocket pair I would be inclined to think that he woundlt turn his hand into a bluff on the river.

That river range is owning you pretty bad, so my initial reaction was "its a fold" so I am gonna stand by that.

aislephive 10-23-2007 03:48 AM

Re: One of those river decision where fold/call/raise options
 
I definitely bet the turn, and fold river as played. His stats suggest he is competent, and if he is then he won't think a raise represents anything and will call light as hell.

Actually I think I'd call the river, kinda misread the action and the board a little. Use a converter next time please. Anyways, lots of draws missed and he could pretty easily show up with like 55 here tbh. He calls the flop because he hopes you have AK, then when you check back the turn he knows you probably have TT-KK (if you had Ax or air you likely always bet turn) and bets the river to get you off it.

It's close either way, though.


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