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Stalrock 11-07-2007 09:15 AM

Raise or call flop with overpair against tight passive opponent.
 
Villain was 18, 12, 1.0. Is a call ok on this flop? Maybe we raise here because with this low AF; he may never double barrell? As played, what the hell do we do on this river? It was such a gross card on turn. His river bet screams a scared ace right?

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $387.10
SB: $395
BB: $234
UTG: $165.60
MP: $38.55
CO: $199.45

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $2, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $34</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $22

Flop: ($71) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $50</font>, Hero calls $50

Turn: ($171) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($171) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $65</font>, Hero ?

Stalrock 11-07-2007 09:32 AM

Re: Raise or call flop with overpair against tight passive opponent.
 
please help. this hand is torturing me.

shandyboy 11-07-2007 09:32 AM

Re: Raise or call flop with overpair against tight passive opponent.
 
Folds, there is not much u are beating here, and i dont think u can push without him calling.

Ah, re question, i think i call flop here, raising the flop here will only get action from hands that crush u.

balzak520 11-07-2007 09:34 AM

Re: Raise or call flop with overpair against tight passive opponent.
 
This is read dependant for me. I would look him up and see what he's making that river bet with. I'm not sure how often enough you'll see JJ here to make this profitable though.

Daddy Warbucks 11-07-2007 09:38 AM

Re: Raise or call flop with overpair against tight passive opponent.
 
Folds.

If he's tight passive, you only beat one hand in his range.

Suigin406 11-07-2007 09:39 AM

Re: Raise or call flop with overpair against tight passive opponent.
 
he's passive and i'm a girl, so i fold

RockRattler 11-07-2007 09:42 AM

Re: Raise or call flop with overpair against tight passive opponent.
 
fold looks good

Daddy Warbucks 11-07-2007 09:45 AM

Re: Raise or call flop with overpair against tight passive opponent.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Villain was 18, 12, 1.0. Is a call ok on this flop? Maybe we raise here because with this low AF; he may never double barrell?

[/ QUOTE ]

Also regarding this, flop call is the right play. If you raise, you fold out AK and maybe JJ, but AA and KK will get all in. He likely won't fire a second barrel with AK, so its just unfortunate that he (probably) hit his 6 outer on the turn. I think against this opponent i probably check/fold a blank turn.


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