took a non-std line with top pair 600nl, thoughts?
 

villain is an okish lag running 32/24/3 ish (BigBossu for party regs) we have some history, he bluff raises cbets q. a bit, and knows i am capable of alot of moves id imagine.


Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $457.70
BB: $675.15
UTG: $855.53
US (CO): $619.50
BTN: $1,253.45

Preflop: US is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $24.00</font>, US calls $24.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($57) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $43.00</font>, <font color="red">US raises to $125.00</font>, UTG calls $82.00

Turn: ($307) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, US checks

River: ($307) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">US bets $220.00</font>




EDIT: better put this in op. River bet isn't a bluff, it's a value bet. My flop raising range is usually pretty polarized towards air/draws/2pr/sets. That + turn check i thought looked pretty suspicious, so my river bet looks like a bluff. (problem is KQ made it, but meh) idk, too thin?

Re: took a non-std line with top pair 600nl, thoughts?
 

Im not sure? is this a vbet or a bluff? If you are trying to bluff QQ its not gonna work

Re: took a non-std line with top pair 600nl, thoughts?
 

nah i aint bluffing. Trying to rep some missed draw (problem is that KQ made it). i woudn't usually raise the flop with top pair, that's the key part of the hand. I figured that plus turn check looks really suspicious.

Re: took a non-std line with top pair 600nl, thoughts?
 

flop raise is very questionable.....i like a flat call much better since ur ip. is ur river bet a bluff?

Re: took a non-std line with top pair 600nl, thoughts?
 

hmm i think this is not bad, but i dont like it vs him. Bigbossu is not a OK LAG he is a spew monkey.

Re: took a non-std line with top pair 600nl, thoughts?
 

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Im not sure? is this a vbet or a bluff? If you are trying to bluff QQ its not gonna work

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lol qq never folds here. if you want to move qq off their hand (bad idea) move all in.

Re: took a non-std line with top pair 600nl, thoughts?
 

also, the reason its thin is... if villain gets to the river with a showdownable hand, they still may not pay off, bc KQ hit. (as in, mid pair) plus, if they think you're solid, they're probably mucking it on the flop.

also, if they had airish type, they'd put action in either on the flop (3bet) or the turn (stop and go bluff) so you're probably facing something that c/c quickly (which wins) or c/f quickly (qhich missed)

sometimes you do get paid off but...

Re: took a non-std line with top pair 600nl, thoughts?
 

I generally like this line you've taken here, but this spot is weird because the only hands he can have here that might look you up that you beat are AT,KT,QT and T8. That being said, this is fine and it's good for metagame given you have history, but I'd expect him to check/call a lot of hands that beat you in this spot, rather than bet them himself.

Re: took a non-std line with top pair 600nl, thoughts?
 

id also expect him to fold most 10 hands bc one of the draws got there

Re: took a non-std line with top pair 600nl, thoughts?
 

I cannot see him ever calling with a worse hand, ever.