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TNixon 10-27-2007 10:23 PM

Max value extraction with quad aces, $100 NLHUSNG
 
Don't you wish you had this problem all the time?

Anyway, this is only 5 hands in, and all I know about villain so far is that he's down about $900 on sharkscope over 135 games, with an average roi of -36%, and this hand, which was the second of the tournament:

Full Tilt Poker, $100 + $5 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 10/20 Blinds, 2 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): 1,440
BB: 1,560

Pre-Flop: (30) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to 60</font>, BB calls 40

Flop: (120) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets 80</font>, BB calls 80

Turn: (280) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets 20</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to 170</font>, BB calls 150

River: (620) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Results: 620 Pot
Hero showed A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a full house, Twos full of Threes) and WON 310 (+0 NET)
BB showed 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a full house, Twos full of Threes) and WON 310 (+0 NET)

No other hands have gone to showdown, and they've all been tiny pots, with the first person to bet taking them down for the most part. (remember we're only talking about 3 hands here though)

Then, in hand #5, comes this:

Full Tilt Poker, $100 + $5 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 10/20 Blinds, 2 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): 1,440
BB: 1,560

Pre-Flop: (30) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to 60</font>, BB calls 40

Flop: (120) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets 60</font>, BB calls 60

Turn: (240) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets 160</font>, BB calls 160

River: (560) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets ???</font>

What do you bet here, why, and what hands do you expect to call?

JSmith2007 10-27-2007 10:57 PM

Re: Max value extraction with quad aces, $100 NLHUSNG
 
Bet 400.

Make it look like a steal and hope he's dumb enough to call with a ten.

chrismystero 10-28-2007 03:14 PM

Re: Max value extraction with quad aces, $100 NLHUSNG
 
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Bet 450.

Make it look like a steal and hope he's dumb enough to call with a ten.

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TNixon 10-28-2007 03:40 PM

Re: Max value extraction with quad aces, $100 NLHUSNG
 
If we think he'll call a big bet with a ten, is all-in worth trying here? If he's going to call 400-450, how likely is he to fold for another 600 or so?

In the hand, I actually did push, and he called with KT, but I'm wondering if a push here is really a horrible move, and I just got lucky that he called.

ghettointlectual 10-28-2007 06:00 PM

Re: Max value extraction with quad aces, $100 NLHUSNG
 
I max value extraction is dependent on the type of player you are playing against. I think you basically need more information about the player in order decide the best possible bet size and if you don't have that information yet I just go with the default line. Mine would have been to bet about 2/3 of the pot.


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