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Heisenb3rg 11-08-2007 03:02 AM

Re: Hand from villian\'s perspective (Reshef)
 
There was another thread about reshef before by pokerbob...

He plays terrible frequently.. I can bust out 10 hands right now where he spews horrendously that would make anyone lol.

FWIW the flop cap is fine for image purposes... But if he knows how you play, once you 3-bet that flop he's not taking the pot down EVER.

If I get requests I can post some...

He must be doing something really well though if hes a big winner in these games despite his terrible spews... I certiantly havent been able to figure it out...

Heisenb3rg 11-08-2007 03:34 AM

Re: Hand from villian\'s perspective (Reshef)
 
Ah screw it, these are fun... (fwiw ive spewed pretty hard before at people so I bet a similar thread can be made about me).

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (17SB, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Button calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (10BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (19BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Results:
Final pot: 19BB
<font color="#ffffff">Hero showed Ac As</font>
Reshef (button) mucked [Ah Kh]


Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, SB calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (9.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 11.5BB
<font color="#ffffff">Hero showed Tc Th</font>
<font color="#ffffff">SB showed Jh Ah</font>



Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9.5SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5.75BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (11.75BB, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Results:
Final pot: 13.75BB
<font color="#ffffff">Hero showed Qc Ah</font>
<font color="#ffffff">UTG mucks 9h Kh</font>



Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.5SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3.25BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (11.25BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

Results:
Final pot: 11.25BB
<font color="#ffffff">Hero showed As Tc</font>
<font color="#ffffff">CO mucks Ks 2s</font>


Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, Hero calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (8SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (11BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 13BB
<font color="#ffffff">Hero showed Ad Qc</font>
<font color="#ffffff">BB mucks Qd 8d</font>



Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, BB calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8.5SB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (8.25BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (12.25BB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 14.25BB
<font color="#ffffff">Hero showed Kd Kh</font>
<font color="#ffffff">BB mucks Ts Tc</font>

PokerBob 11-08-2007 07:21 AM

Re: Hand from villian\'s perspective (Reshef)
 
reshef is an idiot.

surfdoc 11-08-2007 07:23 AM

Re: Hand from villian\'s perspective (Reshef)
 
[ QUOTE ]
Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A T
2 folds, CO raises, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 2 A A (4.5SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Turn: T (3.25BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, CO caps, Hero calls.

River: 6 (11.25BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

Results:
Final pot: 11.25BB
Hero showed As Tc
CO mucks Ks 2s


[/ QUOTE ]

This one is the winner by far. Blows me away that guys like tha can win.

PokerBob 11-08-2007 07:46 AM

Re: Hand from villian\'s perspective (Reshef)
 
[ QUOTE ]
There was another thread about reshef before by pokerbob...


[/ QUOTE ]

PokerStars 10/20 Hold'em (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: PokerBob is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">PokerBob 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">PokerBob bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">PokerBob 3-bets</font>, MP calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">PokerBob bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, PokerBob calls.

River: (10.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, PokerBob calls.

Final Pot: 12.75 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
MP has 9c 8c (flush, king high).
PokerBob has As Ad (one pair, aces).
Outcome: MP wins 12.75 BB. </font>

this line is pretty common and simply atrocious. if i have a hand that i can bet the turn with, it is one i am never folding ever in a million years.

instead of merely calling the turn and then donking a river club or check/raising one of the 3 non-club 8s, this retard commits himself to barrelling off 3 bets with what the vast majority of the time is gonna be 9-high. this play loses money.

vmacosta 11-08-2007 10:45 AM

Re: Hand from villian\'s perspective (Reshef)
 
i don't get you guys. do you want me to post my best spews *in the past few months*? Cuz they make those ones look like little schoolgirl hands.

Spewing like that is never a good idea but it hardly means you can't win when you're getting 350 hands/hr.

i have no idea if reshef wins or not, i just don't get why all the hate.

noles321 11-08-2007 10:55 AM

Re: Hand from villian\'s perspective (Reshef)
 
Just playing devils advocate. Assuming you don't have a set of queens doesn't his cap get you to check the turn which he can check behind if he chooses, and at the same time gets UTG to possibly fold a hand with a King that would increase his possible live outs. So essentially if you don't have a set here the cap costs 1/2 bet less than calling the 3 bet (assuming you check the turn to his cap) and then calling a turn bet UI... Just thinking out loud. Somebody please correct my thinking.

JDalla 11-08-2007 11:07 AM

Re: Hand from villian\'s perspective (Reshef)
 
He is OOP on both of us. The cap/check play is pretty suspect I just might bet less that top set there!

JDalla 11-08-2007 11:08 AM

Re: Hand from villian\'s perspective (Reshef)
 
[ QUOTE ]
i don't get you guys. do you want me to post my best spews *in the past few months*? Cuz they make those ones look like little schoolgirl hands.

Spewing like that is never a good idea but it hardly means you can't win when you're getting 350 hands/hr.

i have no idea if reshef wins or not, i just don't get why all the hate.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree, I have spews that look worse than those, but pretty much all HU or in blind battles where I think neither of us have a showdownable hand or something. (Usually I'm just being an idiot probably).

But this play wasn't such a situation... he was OOP on two players on a 6 man table, and defended his play afterwards. Kind of baffling to me.

noles321 11-08-2007 11:11 AM

Re: Hand from villian\'s perspective (Reshef)
 
I misread it. I thought he had position on you.


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