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vortex86 05-06-2007 12:35 PM

NL200 QQ preflop
 
i wasnt really on top of my game yesterday. in the first hand i was very confused. i show strenght by raising the UTG raiser, who is a donk, but still. and then the SB makes this weird small raise. I think folding is really bad. he seems kinda reasonable and i dont think hes doing it as a bluff, reraise, call and reeval flop?

PartyPoker Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> HandRecorder

Stacks &amp; Stats
SB ($618.32) (25/16/2.69/27) (4692h)
UTG ($271.55) (39/10/1.93/29) (1477h)
CO ($542.40)
BB ($180)
BU ($323.15)
Hero ($203.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#FF0000">UTG raises to $6</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $19</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#FF0000">SB raises to $50</font>, <font color="#666666">UTG folds</font>, Hero....???.


this hand is a little easier i think. i would say if i want to continue i'd have to shove but then id see AA and KK way too often, as i think hed fold TT and JJ, maybe call AK.

I havent seen him get out of line and do any crazy stuff, my image was pretty much tag, maybe even a little nitty.

Is this fold ok?

PartyPoker Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(5 handed)</font> HandRecorder

Stacks &amp; Stats
BU (21/14/4.42/17) (560h)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#FF0000">BU raises to $7</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $24</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#FF0000">BU raises to $65</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>.

Final Pot: $91.

The White Rabbit 05-06-2007 01:00 PM

Re: NL200 QQ preflop
 
Hand 1 is an easy fold, he's not doing this with JJ and bluffing would be suicide.

Hand 2 is push or fold. Without history (i.e. you have no reason to believe villain is "exploiting" your perceived wide 3-betting range) I'm leaning towards a fold. Calling and getting it in when you flop an overpair (which happens ~45% of the time) is bad, especially if he's not moronicly betting every flop when checked to.

AMT 05-06-2007 01:03 PM

Re: NL200 QQ preflop
 
hand 1 id probably need a read that he can reraise light behind/knows about the donk to do this in order to continue. fold.


hand 2 without that good of a read in button vs sb i find it tough not to stack here and make a note. i guess flip a coin for push/fold.


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