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insyder19 10-27-2007 09:24 AM

Can we fold this...very bad pre/flop play
 
Okay, I really thought this guy might be messing around. Also I just thought, we are deep and if I flop something big I might get paid off...

The question is, IF you called preflop, where would you fold it postflop?

Titan No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50/$1.00BB (Titan HH Converter by Kreatief)

MP3 ($99.50)
CO ($101.50)
Button ($153.84) (Hero)
SB ($165.69)
BB ($233.22)
MP2 ($68.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to 4.0</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to 11.0</font>, Hero calls $8.00,

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( $24.5 )
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $15.00</font>, Hero calls $15.00,

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( $54.5 )
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $22.00</font>, Hero calls $22.00,

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( $98.5 )
<font color="#CC3333">BB raises All-In $184.22</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises All-In $104.84</font>,

Final Pot: $384.56

JFsports 10-27-2007 09:29 AM

Re: Can we fold this...very bad pre/flop play
 
nah once you call pre, I don't think you can fold given the bet sizes. Calling to split the river but it's just ul if he has AJ

SABR42 10-27-2007 09:35 AM

Re: Can we fold this...very bad pre/flop play
 
Preflop is fine.

I play the same post-flop as well. Sucks if you lost to AJ or 99.

insyder19 10-27-2007 10:00 AM

Re: Can we fold this...very bad pre/flop play
 
The reason I am asking is because many say that ATs should be folded because it is dominated too often.

Is there someone who would fold on the river?

Gelford 10-27-2007 11:32 AM

Re: Can we fold this...very bad pre/flop play
 
[ QUOTE ]
The reason I am asking is because many say that ATs should be folded because it is dominated too often.

Is there someone who would fold on the river?

[/ QUOTE ]


Reads reads reads ... and reads ... he might be messing around, then why not repop it, even if you'll end up calling a pf shove.

Else what are you trying to do .. hit a big hand HU ??? meh ...


So you're hoping of hitting an Ace and action that goes call, check, call from your pow .... meh


I don't mind the pf call terribly and the river call ... again timing tells, reads ???


But imo this is a fold/reraise pf thing.



But I'm kinda nitty ... a lot good players like to fight like animals ip and if you have a read, then all this is spot on.


reads reads reads ... (like timing tells at the end etc) [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

martijn 10-27-2007 11:39 AM

Re: Can we fold this...very bad pre/flop play
 
I fold it nowhere

markuisis 10-27-2007 11:40 AM

Re: Can we fold this...very bad pre/flop play
 
Villain has AJ almost always given bet sizes IMO but thats the trouble with calling pf, I guess call now that u put urself in this situation and hope he had a cautious aq/ak - i wouldnt be surprised at all though if ur beat. Id only call pf with a strong read on villain as a loose blind defender and some things to help me post-flop.


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