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thac 11-21-2007 06:50 PM

Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: NOV Pt 2 (nc)
 
I mean, I know I played it like a fish, but c'mon. I suck at taking shots.

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

CO: $259.05
BTN: $459.40
SB: $299
Hero (BB): $420.80
UTG: $506.10
MP: $431

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
4 folds, SB calls $2, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, SB calls $12

Flop: ($32) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $16</font>, SB calls $16

Turn: ($64) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $64</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $128</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $267 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $139

River: ($598) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $598 Pot ($3 Rake)
SB showed T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Tens) and WON $595 (+$296 NET)
Hero showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Tens) and LOST (-$299 NET)

dirtylobster 11-21-2007 06:51 PM

Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: NOV Pt 2 (nc)
 
[ QUOTE ]
lobster, nh move up already you nit!

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Ty. But I learned the hard way that it's better to be nitty than reckless when you play for a living.

November so far (I can feel a breakeven stretch is on its way):

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9387/novemberit2.jpg

42k hands NL100, 5k hands NL50 6m &amp; HU, 1k hands NL200, 10 hands NL1000

Shizzle12345 11-21-2007 06:52 PM

Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: NOV Pt 2 (nc)
 
TR for NL1000 pls

spivey 11-21-2007 06:53 PM

Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: NOV Pt 2 (nc)
 
[ QUOTE ]
I mean, I know I played it like a fish, but c'mon. I suck at taking shots.

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

CO: $259.05
BTN: $459.40
SB: $299
Hero (BB): $420.80
UTG: $506.10
MP: $431

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
4 folds, SB calls $2, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, SB calls $12

Flop: ($32) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $16</font>, SB calls $16

Turn: ($64) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $64</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $128</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $267 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $139

River: ($598) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $598 Pot ($3 Rake)
SB showed T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Tens) and WON $595 (+$296 NET)
Hero showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Tens) and LOST (-$299 NET)

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You played this fine. The min raise is fine, because it sets up an easy river all in, which is all you need to do. It will also both give him good odds on the turn and river, and if an idiot he's more likely to call like that then call a shove on turn with a non-T hand.

Obv you're not folding, so I assume that's the only thing you're talking about?

dirtylobster 11-21-2007 06:55 PM

Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: NOV Pt 2 (nc)
 
[ QUOTE ]
TR for NL1000 pls

[/ QUOTE ]

I got coolered in a bunch of pots right when I was about to end a session so instead of being up $100 I ended down $180. McBeef suggested to shortstack NL1000 to get even. I followed his advice:

POKERSTARS GAME #13195348185: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($5/$10) - 2007/11/12 - 11:32:35 (ET)
Table 'Friederike' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: twin-caracas ($1964.50 in chips)
Seat 2: LK_Revolt ($2344.45 in chips)
Seat 3: MWKT ($875 in chips)
Seat 4: LittleZen ($170 in chips)
Seat 5: dirtylobster ($255 in chips)
puttska will be allowed to play after the button
twin-caracas: posts small blind $5
LK_Revolt: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dirtylobster [7d 7c]
MWKT: folds
LittleZen: folds
dirtylobster: raises $25 to $35
twin-caracas: folds
LK_Revolt: raises $115 to $150
dirtylobster: raises $105 to $255 and is all-in
LK_Revolt: calls $105
*** FLOP *** [7h 3c 2c]
*** TURN *** [7h 3c 2c] [3s]
*** RIVER *** [7h 3c 2c 3s] [9d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
LK_Revolt: shows [Js Jc] (two pair, Jacks and Threes)
dirtylobster: shows [7d 7c] (a full house, Sevens full of Threes)
dirtylobster collected $513 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $515 | Rake $2
Board [7h 3c 2c 3s 9d]
Seat 1: twin-caracas (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: LK_Revolt (big blind) showed [Js Jc] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Threes
Seat 3: MWKT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: LittleZen folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: dirtylobster (button) showed [7d 7c] and won ($513) with a full house, Sevens full of Threes

thac 11-21-2007 06:55 PM

Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: NOV Pt 2 (nc)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I mean, I know I played it like a fish, but c'mon. I suck at taking shots.

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

CO: $259.05
BTN: $459.40
SB: $299
Hero (BB): $420.80
UTG: $506.10
MP: $431

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
4 folds, SB calls $2, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, SB calls $12

Flop: ($32) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $16</font>, SB calls $16

Turn: ($64) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $64</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $128</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $267 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $139

River: ($598) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $598 Pot ($3 Rake)
SB showed T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Tens) and WON $595 (+$296 NET)
Hero showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Tens) and LOST (-$299 NET)

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You played this fine. The min raise is fine, because it sets up an easy river all in, which is all you need to do. It will also both give him good odds on the turn and river, and if an idiot he's more likely to call like that then call a shove on turn with a non-T hand.

Obv you're not folding, so I assume that's the only thing you're talking about?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah.

spivey 11-21-2007 06:56 PM

Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: NOV Pt 2 (nc)
 
I'd also bet the flop larger

terp 11-21-2007 07:23 PM

Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: NOV Pt 2 (nc)
 
lol @ flop bet

turn raise is fine, dude. there was a very good discussion on when minraising is ok in MSNL a long time ago.

Daddy Warbucks 11-21-2007 07:36 PM

Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: NOV Pt 2 (nc)
 
Can somebody please prove Gavin Smith wrong for me. He said in that AJ would be a loser in everybody's database because of how deceptively mediocre it actually is, i think there's no way that can be true, i look in my DB and [censored], i'm losing 0.4BB/hand with AJ. Anybody!

bubaloo 11-21-2007 07:45 PM

Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: NOV Pt 2 (nc)
 
wow 48k hands already, you are a true grinder lobster.


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