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Rite Aid stores in west selling a paternity test kit for 29.99
Exerpt: Genetic testing is now available at the drugstore. A company called Sorenson Genomics has started selling a paternity test kit through Rite Aid stores in California, Oregon and Washington. It appears to be the first time a DNA test is being sold through a major pharmacy chain.

The test, sold under the brand name Identigene, has a suggested list price of $29.99, though a reporter purchased one at a Rite Aid in Santa Monica, Calif., for $19.99. There is an additional laboratory fee of $119 to have the samples analyzed.
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My take: its a very important breakthrough in preventing exploitation of innocent and trustworthy men. I heard it on 97.1 KLSX where they were talking that a report in Australia found that 25% of the people who sent dna samples to some DNA testing company found that they were NOT the father. wonder what will the % be in US.

so now the woman who have been hitting up the "cash cows" for child support will be cautious. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Finally someone is looking out for the guys !! However, the company warns that the results wont hold up in court if you just buy a kit and send samples. but at least you will know first and then decide on appropriate future course of action.

BTW, a guy called in the show and told a weird story. He had a doubt 5-6 years on that the kid wasnt his that he was paying child support for. When he got dna tested, the family court judge ignored it and he still has to pay. CAN it be possible ? doesnt make sense.

would like to hear your opinions. I cant see ANYONE having an adverse opinion on this development other than Maury/Ricki Lake/Montel.....who is going to go to their show now [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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this is bad news for those of us whose boys can swim [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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What's the false-positive result percentage? Also, I'd love to see the correlation between number of kits sold and domestic violence.

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how is this bad news? i think its bad news for gold digging whores who hit up successful guys to have them pay child support when the kid is not even his. do a google on the study.....25% of the guys pay child support to kids that arent theirs !!!

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i think its bad news for gold digging whores who hit up successful guys to have them pay child support when the kid is not even his. do a google on the study.....25% of the guys pay child support to kids that arent theirs !!!

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I gotta tell you, 25% sounds awfully suspicious. Sounds too much like the old canard of 10% of fathers raising kids that are biologically not theirs.
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/071019.html

With all this talk of "gold-digging whores," it sounds like OP has a serious axe to grind.

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I was told by a teacher once that almost 10% of people have an incorrectly identified father.

That is, that 1 in 10 kids don't realize who their real father is...and that their mothers probably don't know for sure either.

I don't know if it's true. But I would definitely believe it in our society.

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That's exactly what I was talking about. From the link above, it seems that when you actually study the question carefully, the real rate is much lower, more like two or three percent.

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but then Al Gore invented Snopes.

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With all this talk of "gold-digging whores," it sounds like OP has a serious axe to grind.

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maybe in other posts or other things. not on this one. See I married someone who doesnt want kids (not like a lot of girls say that in begining of relationship to get a guy and then change the tune, but really doesnt want kids). so I am safe on that angle [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

yeah 10% seems right too. they were talking on a show about a survey in Australia. and it could be 10, could be 25, dont remember.

either way, something good for the guys nevertheless.

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this is more like "breaking news in the retail field"

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ugh, i was hoping for something...big...at least bigger than this [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I've heard that in the eyes of the law, if you accept that the child is yours and act accordingly for ? amount of time, actual paternity does not matter after a certain point.

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BTW, a guy called in the show and told a weird story. He had a doubt 5-6 years on that the kid wasnt his that he was paying child support for. When he got dna tested, the family court judge ignored it and he still has to pay. CAN it be possible ? doesnt make sense.


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a report in Australia found that 25% of the people who sent dna samples to some DNA testing company found that they were NOT the father. wonder what will the % be in US.

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So you're saying 3/4ths of men who think their kid isn't their's are just being paranoid?
Cause obviously you're smart enough to know people wont go through the trouble/cost/invasion of privacy of sending in their DNA and that of their kids unless they really want this done, and they wouldn't really want this done unless they had real doubts about their paternity so the 25% figure doesn't at all speak to the number of fathers being "tricked" but rather to the fact that most people who do think they are being tricked, aren't.

For the record, I think the take home DNA test is pretty damn cool, and will prove really useful in saving a lot of people in need of paternity tests time and money.

I just also think that OP is dumb and sexist and anyone who believes 1 in 10 fathers isn't the real father of their kid is equally unqualified to ever have children of their own or raise someone else's.

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Haha, you are paying 30 dollars for cotton swabs that you send for testing. While this may be a new venue to get a DNA test it is essentially exactly the same as going to get one done in a private lab, which has been an available option before. Hopefully it's cheaper since it is somewhat more convienient I guess.

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How do the women test to see if the baby is theirs?

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I doubt a women will ever try to pwn a baby off as ours (being 2p2) unless we someday become like these guys

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I think it's a great idea, some of you poor men have been taken for fools.

Along the lines of the judge making the non-father continue paying, here's what happened to me:

I put my daughters fathers name on birth certificate, he signed paperwork that she was his and then we filed for court ordered child support when she was about 8 months old. The courts in California finally saw the case and approved it when she was FIVE. I figured cool, I get five years of back child support. Nope. The order was in effect for the date of the court hearing and beyond, not the past. He got out of five years of child support because the family courts in LA area were too booked/overcrowded and I didn't have a lawyer.

Sucked then. Now I get court ordered for another 3 years, but what I get each month is just enough to cover her braces monthly payment.

T

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I think it's a great idea, some of you poor men have been taken for fools.

Along the lines of the judge making the non-father continue paying, here's what happened to me:

I put my daughters fathers name on birth certificate, he signed paperwork that she was his and then we filed for court ordered child support when she was about 8 months old. The courts in California finally saw the case and approved it when she was FIVE. I figured cool, I get five years of back child support. Nope. The order was in effect for the date of the court hearing and beyond, not the past. He got out of five years of child support because the family courts in LA area were too booked/overcrowded and I didn't have a lawyer.

Sucked then. Now I get court ordered for another 3 years, but what I get each month is just enough to cover her braces monthly payment.

T

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fellknight jr?

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a report in Australia found that 25% of the people who sent dna samples to some DNA testing company found that they were NOT the father. wonder what will the % be in US.

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So you're saying 3/4ths of men who think their kid isn't their's are just being paranoid?

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No, he is saying that 25% of Australian wives are [censored].

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i think its bad news for gold digging whores who hit up successful guys to have them pay child support when the kid is not even his. do a google on the study.....25% of the guys pay child support to kids that arent theirs !!!

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I gotta tell you, 25% sounds awfully suspicious. Sounds too much like the old canard of 10% of fathers raising kids that are biologically not theirs.
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/071019.html


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HAY GUISE DID |U|O HERE THAT 25% OF AUSSIES ARE |BAS|TARDS

DONT TELL ADSMAN IMO

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BTW, a guy called in the show and told a weird story. He had a doubt 5-6 years on that the kid wasnt his that he was paying child support for. When he got dna tested, the family court judge ignored it and he still has to pay.

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In most states, if your wife has a baby while youre married, you are responsible for it, whether or not its yours.

pretty [censored] up imo

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With all this talk of "gold-digging whores," it sounds like OP has a serious axe to grind.

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Devastating news for Maury Povich

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BTW, a guy called in the show and told a weird story. He had a doubt 5-6 years on that the kid wasnt his that he was paying child support for. When he got dna tested, the family court judge ignored it and he still has to pay.

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In most states, if your wife has a baby while youre married, you are responsible for it, whether or not its yours.

pretty [censored] up imo

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Unless you show otherwise, I think. The problem is once you assume responsibility, finding out later won't do you any good, because courts will order support in order to best provide for the child. If you've got a 6 year old bastard you've been feeding and clothing for his whole life and the biological dad is M.I.A. --> tough [censored] for you.

Also, I'm pretty disappointed by everyone in this thread who didn't read Quicksilver's link but are continuing to spout off about non-paternity statistics.

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Awesome! My parents might not like it when I bring the test over for Christmas, but I need to know for sure they're who they say they are.

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anyone who believes 1 in 10 fathers isn't the real father of their kid is equally unqualified to ever have children of their own or raise someone else's.

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Being as I said I could believe it and I find myself intelligent and plan to have kids some day, I'm going to ask you for the correlation here. Why am I unqualified to have children because I happen to think it is possible that in our world of guys pounding as much poon as they can and selfish girls trying to get money that the number sounds close to reasonable?

I find your comment to be both unfounded and silly. I'd like for you to give me a reason to think otherwise KneeCo.

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lets break down the issue further.

1) we already know what huge % of the marriages end in divorce.

2) Calculate the % of those divorces that have a child involved along with child support payments + add it to the numbers of cases involved with single mothers collecting child support from guys (who werent married to them)

I am not even counting the guys who doubt their parenthood while they are married. Lets just consider the guys that are divorced and paying child support payments. too lazy to do google here but i believe the number (absolute value) is very high.

why would it be considered unreasonable for a guy who is divorced to his wife but is still paying child support to ensure that he is really paying child support a his kid.

In other words, is it considered unreasonable to ensure you are not paying for other people's mistakes. What are we ? Charity centers here or what.

Also please keep focus on the issue at hand and not my personal situation as 2 people pointed out that i might have an axe to grind. I had vasectomy at 26, when i wasnt married and didnt have any kids. suffice to say, i wouldnt be affected either way.

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Another issue in the whole paternity testing debate is the possibility of the parent being a chimera. A mother had a hard time proving her children were actually hers because she has two sets of DNA.

Chimerism

The implications of this are that some fathers could be cleared of paternity, rapist/murderers could be cleared on the grounds of DNA testing, and the list goes on. Pretty profound stuff IMO.

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I think it's a great idea, some of you poor men have been taken for fools.

Along the lines of the judge making the non-father continue paying, here's what happened to me:

I put my daughters fathers name on birth certificate, he signed paperwork that she was his and then we filed for court ordered child support when she was about 8 months old. The courts in California finally saw the case and approved it when she was FIVE. I figured cool, I get five years of back child support. Nope. The order was in effect for the date of the court hearing and beyond, not the past. He got out of five years of child support because the family courts in LA area were too booked/overcrowded and I didn't have a lawyer.

Sucked then. Now I get court ordered for another 3 years, but what I get each month is just enough to cover her braces monthly payment.

T

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My daughter is 15 years old, what do you think?? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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