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Jw513 10-07-2007 10:36 PM

NL25 - Had no idea what to do .. 2 hands
 
Not much info in villain. He's not a loose or spewy player.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

CO ($25.70)
Hero ($27.15)
SB ($23.90)
BB ($26)
UTG ($60.85)
MP ($27.55)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif.
2 folds</font>, CO raises to $0.85</font>, Hero calls $0.85, 2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($2.05) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)</font>
CO bets $1.25</font>, Hero raises to $3.5</font>, CO raises to $5.75</font>, Hero calls $2.25.

Turn: ($13.55) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)</font>
CO bets $9</font>, Hero ????

^^ Is it worth it for me to call or shove here? Or should I muck?

Next hand at a diff table and diff villain. He is a solid tag. Hes a regular. 5 min ago, he raises pf from dealer position, and I 3 bet him from the big blind. He folds and says "do it again"

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

UTG ($71.90)
MP ($47.80)
CO ($57.80)
Hero ($28.65)
SB ($29.75)
BB ($25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/ts.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/ad.gif.
1 fold</font>, MP raises to $1</font>, 1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1, 2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($2.35) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/8c.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/as.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/ks.gif (2 players)</font>
MP bets $1.5</font>, Hero calls $1.50.

Turn: ($5.35) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/td.gif (2 players)</font>
MP bets $4.6</font>, Hero calls $4.60.

River: ($14.55) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/4d.gif (2 players)</font>
MP bets $10.55</font>, Hero ???

^^Does villain value bet with AQ/AJ? The way I played it, it looks like a flush draw, so I thought he might be trying to get value from AQ/AJ. Do we call here? If we have AQ/AJ, do we call? <font color="red"> </font> <font color="red"> </font> <font color="red"> </font> <font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre> </pre><hr /> <font color="red"> </font>

youngmachetes 10-07-2007 10:40 PM

Re: NL25 - Had no idea what to do .. 2 hands
 
flat flop in hand one. fold pf in hand two. in hand one if he calls your raise you are beat so much, so i would just call and re-eval. turn. as played you have to call his 3b, then fold turn i think. also, raising the flop in hand one opens yourself up to being blown off your hand (which given the action is likely just a flush draw going into that turn.)

youngmachetes 10-07-2007 10:43 PM

Re: NL25 - Had no idea what to do .. 2 hands
 
i would fold pf in hand one also, i didn't read the pf action the first time. it seems like you have a lot of trouble postflop, so you should avoid calling raises with marginal hands like suited aces and aTo (which is like the king of marginal hands).

Jw513 10-07-2007 10:46 PM

Re: NL25 - Had no idea what to do .. 2 hands
 
[ QUOTE ]
it seems like you have a lot of trouble postflop, so you should avoid calling raises with marginal hands like suited aces and aTo (which is like the king of marginal hands).

[/ QUOTE ]

Hand 2 - I had position so I decided to see a flop with it. I think my biggest mistake was not raising the flop.... but as played, do you call river?

youngmachetes 10-07-2007 10:50 PM

Re: NL25 - Had no idea what to do .. 2 hands
 
i would shove river if his bet doesn't put you all-in.

youngmachetes 10-07-2007 10:52 PM

Re: NL25 - Had no idea what to do .. 2 hands
 
but seriously, fold pf in hand two. if he is a "solid tag" then aTo is one of the worst hands to be calling his raises with. if you want to get tricky, 3-bet him (although i don't like that either), but don't call.

ryang 10-08-2007 04:05 AM

Re: NL25 - Had no idea what to do .. 2 hands
 
hand 1 shove or fold, up to you, and your read on villain.
hand 2 im stacking off on the turn.

kurto 10-08-2007 11:17 AM

Re: NL25 - Had no idea what to do .. 2 hands
 
Hand 1 -
If you're going to call with a weak Suited ace... and you hit this flop... Do your best to get it all in on the flop. Otherwise, fold this preflop.

as played - first raise should be higher - Raise it up to about $5. ($4.50 is a call then pot sized raise). When he raises you again, there's already $8.25 in the pot..., just shove. (and if you're not going to shove now, then just fold this hand preflop... you're not going to flop a flush (and get paid off) enough to call otherwise.

Hand 2 - fold preflop. As played... if you got that turn, raise, shove, whatever...

Jailblazers 10-08-2007 12:37 PM

Re: NL25 - Had no idea what to do .. 2 hands
 
Hand 1: Raise on the flop should be higher here, and 4bet shoving the flop is good here because against a range of AA, TT, 88, AQs+, ATs, AQo+, ATo, you have about 41% equity. Take away one pair hands and it is about 35%. I'm not gonna do the math, but I think that is good enough.


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