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Berge20 09-25-2007 04:42 PM

What to do here?
 
Low limit NL game

A couple limpers around and the SB checks. Before BB has a chance to act, dealer begins to burn and turns over the first flop card. Simultaneously (and without seeing the card), BB announced raise and the dealer catches himself w/o exposing any more cards. The BB did not specify an amount, just that he would raise. What is the correct procedure for the situation?

Does the exposed card get shuffled back into the remaining deck and the flop is re-delt after action is completed?

Is the exposed card simply considered as a burn card for the turn?

Does the exposed card actually somehow still remain coming up on the flop?

crashjr 09-25-2007 04:47 PM

Re: What to do here?
 
This doesn't seem any different than a premature flop with all cards exposed. Reshuffle the entire flop into the stub setting aside the burn card, deal a new flop with no burn after action is complete.

I'll leave the dealer's fate to al capone.

sejje 09-25-2007 06:57 PM

Re: What to do here?
 
How did the dealer only expose one card? Home game?

Berge20 09-25-2007 06:59 PM

Re: What to do here?
 
Roger

Crash, I agree but wanted to double check with you guys.

Al_Capone_Junior 09-25-2007 09:16 PM

Re: What to do here?
 
Never seen this situation so not sure what the correct procedure would be. I'd leave the burn card down and reshuffle the exposed card and the two unexposed cards, complete the action, then deal a new flop without burning a card. There is no way I would allow the exposed card to play with incomplete action without that card being reshuffled.

Rick Nebiolo 09-26-2007 02:21 AM

Re: What to do here?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Never seen this situation so not sure what the correct procedure would be. I'd leave the burn card down and reshuffle the exposed card and the two unexposed cards, complete the action, then deal a new flop without burning a card. There is no way I would allow the exposed card to play with incomplete action without that card being reshuffled.

[/ QUOTE ]

I like this answer best.

~ Rick

NevadaKaz 09-26-2007 05:08 AM

Re: What to do here?
 
I favour leaving the burn where it is and reshuffling into the deck only the exposed card. This way 2/3 of the flop stays as it would have been.
Also this way seems most fair and intuitive to me.

Al_Capone_Junior 09-26-2007 08:49 PM

Re: What to do here?
 
[ QUOTE ]
.I'll leave the dealer's fate to al capone.

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WHAM! Square in the nuts!

Al

SyrialKilla 09-26-2007 11:09 PM

Re: What to do here?
 
If the big blind has not had an option then the flop must be reshuffled..although if the dealer is putting out one card at a time on the flop and its a home game why not treat it as an the exposed burn card after the flop and let the next three cards come off the stub? I think that maintains the integrity of the hand the most. Its as close to the natural board as you can get in a situation like this.

psandman 09-26-2007 11:18 PM

Re: What to do here?
 
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why not treat it as an the exposed burn card after the flop

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Well for one thing the player who had nopt yet acted with get the advantage of knowing that that card could not come into play before having to act. Sure if you reshuffle it into the stub the player knows that it is in the stub, but at least they don't know whether or not it will come back into play.


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