Folding my Ak on this flop?
 

Villain is good reg, who takes some weired but atleast me good alternative lines. I don`t know if he noticed that i was stacked in the last 90 secs twice by suckouts.


Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1281
UTG+1: $823.75
Hero: $975
Button: $348
SB: $2378.05
BB: $666.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $35</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($105, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $80</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $220</font>, BB folds,

Is this sucha simple fold as it seems? If not how t0 proceed on turn?

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 

wow Im never folding here.

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 

u can't fold here.

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 

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I don`t know if he noticed that i was stacked in the last 90 secs twice by suckouts.

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He obv didn't but we are pretty sure he did and push making it look like we're tilting. He pauses, calls with 33.

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 

oh as for the turn, I'd prob call again, then make him 3 barrel. then u can fold sometimes and call sometimes.

but again, u can't fold the flop, like 2 hand beats u. 99 33 really.. unless u've seen him call A9 A3 OOP. then u can lean towards a fold on the turn if u don't hit u'r K.

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 

This is definitely not a great spot but I think u should call him down (raising is terrible IMO), its a very dry board and a board u should be c-betting a lot on it, he could easily be making a play I think, he could be doing this with a strong ace (takes some weird lines right?) and I dunno how often sets play this board this fast but thats essentially all ur losing to - 99 or 33 playing this board fast.

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 

I called and turn was a Q, bet/call or check and call river?

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 

sb checked turn?

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I called and turn was a Q, bet/call or check and call river?

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so i'm assuming he checked.

b/c would be pretty bad as he is so rarely CRing twice with air.

checking is prob best. if he bets the river, I don't think it would be an easy call. but u should call on some rivers.

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 

recallme, u'r sn use to be Afishoutofthewater a year ago or something? or am I confused with someone else?

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 

check behind the turn, call a lotta rivers

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 

What do you expect him to have? His check really confuses me.
I put him on lots of weaker aces. C7r and c turn with a set would be an amzing tricky line

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 

taking the lead in this hand at any point after he check raises is bad. call flop, once he checks, check behind. I think you are against A9 or A3 a ton here and he is scared of AQ. no other hands really make sense that i can think of to take this line other than air, either way betting is bad.

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 

Does SB not reraise here with just abwt anything a small percent of the time...10J/AX to find out where he is as this is a sick dry Ahigh board, or am i way of as SB is OOP...??

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 

I'd check and call river.

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 

Against some players it's really an obvious muck on the flop (I mean, if they never do it with a worse ace and never with air then AK isn't too pretty). Also, the BB is still to act and if he's as much as a donk as most with that sized stack then that would make a move with air a little less likely. It looks like this villian will do this with a wider range of hands though so I guess you can call and take it from there. Personally, I'd pretty much always check the turn if checked to, no matter what comes up.

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 

You are basically never folding this flop unless you hate the monies. When he checks to you on the Q turn, a check behind is good. Call almost all rivers and value bet them yourself for around half pot if he checks.

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Against some players it's really an obvious muck on the flop

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While I agree, I don't think player shows up much at $5/10, especially on Stars.

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Against some players it's really an obvious muck on the flop

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While I agree, I don't think player shows up much at $5/10, especially on Stars.

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I've seen loads of players at 5/10 where I am certain that calling the flop is -EV, but I've never played Stars and will stay away based on this!

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Against some players it's really an obvious muck on the flop

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While I agree, I don't think player shows up much at $5/10, especially on Stars.

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I've seen loads of players at 5/10 where I am certain that calling the flop is -EV, but I've never played Stars and will stay away based on this!

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But still, this is a steal raise vs 2 blinds caller. Unless villain is a super-nit, this can't be an easy fold on the flop. Many players will only cold call with AQ=AJ even ATs from the blinds.

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 

in all likelyhood the SB is making a move on this flop, but if he's good and carries through on the turn and the board doesn't pair then I'm probably going to give it up. If he checks I agree check behind and call most rivers.

Re: Folding my Ak on this flop?
 

I have a feeling I want to fold this... I know my range with that play has AK beat pretty good. But maybe I'm not opening up enough with my postflop lines...

You have a read that he takes somewhat wierd alternative lines, I guess a call on the flop and fold to turnbet is my play. If he checks, check it behind and VB or call any river.