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plzleenowhammy 09-03-2007 02:44 AM

4/180 kings get action
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP1 (t3380)
MP2 (t1855)
MP3 (t3825)
CO (t2050)
Button (t2965)
SB (t1245)
BB (t2030)
UTG (t125)
Hero (t3225)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t90</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls t75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t390) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t300</font>, MP2 calls t300, CO calls t300, SB folds.

Turn: (t1290) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero..

readless..

coatsie 09-03-2007 09:03 AM

Re: 4/180 kings get action
 
i raise to 120 preflop, you wud prob get same amount of callers

flop fine

turn has to be a check/fold

the hands that will stay in against you love that turn, 2 pairs, sets, straights, flush all fit villains' holdings...or maybe im just an uber nit

levAA 09-03-2007 09:55 AM

Re: 4/180 kings get action
 
Preflop: fine

Flop: with 3 opponents and a dangerous board i would make it pot-size here

Turn: I don't like checking the turn, which is too passive imo. sure it looks like a flush outthere (maybe a straight - but this one had to be a gutshot on the flop). but with checking you will face a large bet most of the time, that you cannot call. I'd make a blocking bet about 400 so that you have an exit possibility if one of the two villains pushes.

but overall not a good spot for your kings

shaundeeb 09-03-2007 11:03 AM

Re: 4/180 kings get action
 
check and see what happens free cards aren't awful cuz they mean you are ahead on the turn.

black666 09-03-2007 11:04 AM

Re: 4/180 kings get action
 
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turn has to be a check/fold

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Have you ever played a 4/180? No way is this a check/fold

MP2 has 1400-1500 left, CO about 1600. The pot is already 1290. Make it 900-1000 and call any push. 4/180 donks call you here with Q9 and trash like that - especially this early! If one of the villains happens to have a set, straight or flush, you have outs for the K high flush.

levAA 09-03-2007 11:06 AM

Re: 4/180 kings get action
 
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check and see what happens free cards aren't awful cuz they mean you are ahead on the turn.

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true - but what will you do if you check and one of the two villain bet out for 400-600?

shaundeeb 09-03-2007 11:43 AM

Re: 4/180 kings get action
 
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check and see what happens free cards aren't awful cuz they mean you are ahead on the turn.

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true - but what will you do if you check and one of the two villain bet out for 400-600?

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it depends on which one I consider prob calling if it's the first guy shoving if it's 2nd guy.

JammyDodga 09-03-2007 11:51 AM

Re: 4/180 kings get action
 
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Preflop: fine


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Really disagre. In a 4-180, you need to be raising up a litle more here. You are going to get called a lot anyway, and won't wind up in a 4 or 5 way pot, OOP with no idea what anyone else has...

levAA 09-03-2007 01:32 PM

Re: 4/180 kings get action
 
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check and see what happens free cards aren't awful cuz they mean you are ahead on the turn.

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true - but what will you do if you check and one of the two villain bet out for 400-600?

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it depends on which one I consider prob calling if it's the first guy shoving if it's 2nd guy.

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ok

and will you call a push from villain 1 or 2?

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JammyDodga,

what preflop raise-size would you suggest?

shaundeeb 09-03-2007 01:36 PM

Re: 4/180 kings get action
 
I prob fold to a shove from 1 of them.


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