folding second nuts (yes yes folding second nuts)
 

22/11 , this screamed QJ to me. Whatelse could he be doing this with? I seriously considered folding here. If he had raised me 3x i would snapcall here. but the insta shove just seemed very weird to me.

EverestPoker Game #2426597197: Table Bamako-9 - $2.00/$4.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:27:57 - 2007/11/26
Seat 1: Shizzleness ($406.00)
Seat 2: bebe77 ($397.69)
Seat 3: LocoPokah ($434.90)
Seat 4: I_NEED_IT ($548.10)
Seat 5: fjutsie ($747.20)
Seat 6: Michor ($421.90)
Michor posts the small blind of $2.00
Shizzleness posts the big blind of $4.00
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Shizzleness[8h 6c]
bebe77 folds
LocoPokah calls $4.00
I_NEED_IT folds
fjutsie folds
Michor folds
Shizzleness checks
*** FLOP *** [5s 9c Th]
Shizzleness bets $10.00
LocoPokah calls $10.00
*** TURN *** [5s 9c Th] [Ks]
Shizzleness bets $30.00
LocoPokah calls $30.00
*** RIVER *** [5s 9c Th Ks] [7c]
Shizzleness bets $90.00
LocoPokah raises to $390.90 and is all-in

Re: folding second nuts (yes yes folding second nuts)
 

I call without thinking, generally, but this is actually a fairly tough spot.

He could have J8 too, so this isn't the second nuts. I think a fold is ok, I don't see 22/11 bluff a lot (unless you have, in which case there's no reason you'd post this).

Re: folding second nuts (yes yes folding second nuts)
 

lol im so stupid, its 3rd nuts indeed. Now i def think this is a fold. Damn, :S . I always have problems seeing those straights lol.

Re: folding second nuts (yes yes folding second nuts)
 

Really hate the turn bet, I think his flop calling range is pretty much equal to his turn calling range.
River I don't mind a fold although I probably never do it while playing.

Re: folding second nuts (yes yes folding second nuts)
 

are you folding this for one buy in?

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are you folding this for one buy in?

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nah im putting villain on a range, and we are behind on that range. He wouldnt play sets or 2 pairs like this. Crap i need to follow my reads.

Re: folding second nuts (yes yes folding second nuts)
 

positively, 100% a good (and relatively automatic) fold

Re: folding second nuts (yes yes folding second nuts)
 

good fold.

i don't like the turn bet but i could probably be persuaded

Re: folding second nuts (yes yes folding second nuts)
 

j8 waaay more than QJ

i'm not sure how i feel about it yet...

Re: folding second nuts (yes yes folding second nuts)
 

nh, i like the fold.