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cts 04-01-2006 05:36 PM

1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
I'm a limit player that's just starting to learn some no limit (playing shorthanded only), so this is my first post here. My turn play was really weak, and by the river even 78 got there. What do you do here on the turn?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

CO ($107.75)
Button ($98.50)
SB ($136.80)
BB ($102.20)
UTG ($216.56)
Hero ($218.80)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $4, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($15.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $24</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $16.

Turn: ($63.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $22</font>, UTG calls $22.

River: ($107.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $25</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $132.50

I'm also kinda curious on my stats, since they are completely different from limit (at which I've been playing from 10/20 to 30/60). I've only been playing the 6-max games and my stats over about 10k hands are

VPIP: 26.6
PFR: 16.9
WTSD: 20.89 (this stat has been falling as I've been getting better)
AF: 2.28 (total)

Are these in the right ballpark? Too tight/loose? Thanks for the feedback.

viper930 04-01-2006 05:41 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
For 6max you'll most likely level off at 30/20 or so. That said, your VPIP and PFR look fine. Is your AF total including preflop? If so, thats fine. If its just postflop you might wanna get that a little higher, but dont just concentrate on bumping stats, do what's natural.

As for the hand, I'd check behind on the turn and call a small bet on the river. A few reasons would be to keep the pot small because you only have a very mediocre hand, and to allow him to bluff on the river if he's got air. Gets you a cheap showdown.

cts 04-01-2006 05:46 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
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Is your AF total including preflop? If so, thats fine.


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My aggression factor is including preflop (which is 1.51). Checking the turn and calling a small bet sounds reasonable, I was trying to avoid giving a free card to a straight draw or if somehow he made it to the turn with clubs. Thanks for the response.

luckychewy 04-01-2006 05:55 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
Bet more on the turn, call river as played.

DirtDog 04-01-2006 07:11 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
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check behind turn, call river as played.

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iceman5 04-01-2006 07:27 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
First of all, youre playing .50/$1 NL ...not $1/$2 NL

Raising that much in these small stakes will get you killed. This opinion is not shared by most 2+2ers, but my database says otherwise. Of course my database (like poker in general) is full of morons.

spacetime 04-01-2006 07:29 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
Check turn.

You pretty much have to call the river here getting 5 to 1.

curtains 04-01-2006 07:52 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 

Once I got to that point I'd call the river for sure, but obviously wouldn't be expecting to win the pot.

cts 04-01-2006 09:14 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
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Raising that much in these small stakes will get you killed. This opinion is not shared by most 2+2ers, but my database says otherwise. Of course my database (like poker in general) is full of morons.

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Where do you think I raised to much? I thought the spots I raised (preflop, flop) were pretty standard. Sorry about the limits, I was playing some 1/2 as well and got this hand mixed up with them.

WHoSBeTTaTHaNuS 10-22-2006 01:46 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
check turn

Call river bet

viciouspenguin 10-22-2006 01:48 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
lol nice bump. i was confused for a sec

ahnuld 10-22-2006 01:54 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
[ QUOTE ]
First of all, youre playing .50/$1 NL ...not $1/$2 NL

Raising that much in these small stakes will get you killed. This opinion is not shared by most 2+2ers, but my database says otherwise. Of course my database (like poker in general) is full of morons.

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lol, I never realised how [censored] iceman was. He was good enough to beat ssnl and thats it, nothing involving more thought than basic tag.

T-God 10-22-2006 01:57 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
God this is a bad hand OP. Just quit poker and save yourself some money.

philipsaurus 10-22-2006 02:39 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
iceman is a [censored] nit. he just set mines and plays AA/KK. for serious.

Requin 10-22-2006 03:29 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
The first poker site I ever found was iceman's, and I thought to myself I never play this way, I must suck.

CamelZoo 10-24-2006 01:33 AM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
impressive progression of stakes, i knew cts came up fast but niiiiice for a couple months

cheiro 10-24-2006 02:57 AM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
wrong forum you fish

o[-_-]o

cts 10-24-2006 03:15 AM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
If we could stop bumping this that'd be greattttt [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

crosse91 10-24-2006 03:21 AM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
lol @ your turn bet.

aislephive 10-24-2006 03:33 AM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
GAWD OP LEARN TO PLAY.

ArturiusX 10-24-2006 04:38 AM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
I like the river fold.

Josh. 10-24-2006 04:49 AM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
bump

neverforgetlol 10-24-2006 04:55 AM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
why does the title say 1/2? oh lol he's using the limit blind system.

good2cu 10-24-2006 05:24 AM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
lolololol

Kirkrrr 10-24-2006 08:23 AM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
This bump is seriously awesome [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]. When I first saw it without looked at the date, I was like WTF!?

Kirk

MYNAMEIZGREG 10-24-2006 09:55 AM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
Obv the best part is when CTS limit-styles the blinds. LOL.

Gary Stevenson 10-24-2006 10:33 AM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
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This bump is seriously awesome [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]. When I first saw it without looked at the date, I was like WTF!?

GS

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MJ of Pokar 11-22-2007 08:58 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
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God this is a bad hand OP. Just quit poker and save yourself some money.

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LOL, shows what u know, u realize OP is very successful in poker now? I mean come on!

highstakesfish 11-22-2007 09:01 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
hahahahaha

FoxwoodsFiend 11-22-2007 09:07 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
holy [censored] this might be my favorite post of all time.

Ansky 11-22-2007 09:10 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
cts u should prob stick to .5/1 (.25/.50 blinds) for a bit till u get the game a little better. GL w/ your progress.

fringsrache 11-22-2007 09:14 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
i was reading the op 3 times to get the joke until i realized its a bump... nice thread anyway.

RiverHebrew2 11-22-2007 09:29 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
I'd bet/fold turn for like $38. You're turnbet sux. On riv, I'd still call. You're TT could seriously still be good; I would expect someone with trips or a straight on the river to bet a little bigger, so sometimes you'll see a blocking bet here from 6s or something, or just complete air in all honesty. CALLCALLCALLCALL

blankoblanco 11-22-2007 09:33 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
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God this is a bad hand OP. Just quit poker and save yourself some money.

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lol awesome

jj12 11-22-2007 09:33 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
minbet turn. as played minraise river.

IHaveStrong9 11-22-2007 10:12 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
i think you should look him up on the river. how are you ever going to play high stakes if you are scared to call 25$ on the river?

nuggetz87 11-22-2007 10:34 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
1/2 instead of .5/1 looooooooooool

fees 11-22-2007 10:49 PM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
LOL post of forum

Melchiades 11-23-2007 12:04 AM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
Wrong forum.

Sponger. 11-23-2007 12:07 AM

Re: 1/2 6m Overpair Fold
 
[ QUOTE ]
VPIP: 26.6
PFR: 16.9
WTSD: 20.89
AF: 2.28 (total)

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interesting


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