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nycplayer 10-11-2007 09:05 PM

NL25 two KK hands from same session - opinions?
 
got KK twice in a couple of orbits - hows my play?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed)
saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($14.40)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($28.95)</font>
UTG+1 ($3.50)
MP1 ($13.95)
MP2 ($22.45)
MP3 ($24.50)
CO ($9.15)
Button ($6)
<font color="#C00000">SB ($48.25)</font>

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $0.5</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $28.7</font>, SB calls $22.70.

Turn: ($58.40) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($58.40) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $58.40

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has 5s 5h (three of a kind, fives).
Hero has Kc Kd (one pair, kings).
Outcome: SB wins $58.40. </font>

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO ($19.25)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($28.55)</font>
<font color="#C00000">SB ($13.75)</font>
BB ($19.70)
UTG ($22.65)
UTG+1 ($19.60)
MP1 ($26.15)
MP2 ($25.30)
MP3 ($74.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $13.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $12.50.

Flop: ($28) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: ($28) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($28) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $28

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Ad Ac (two pair, aces and twos).
Hero has Kc Kh (two pair, kings and twos).
Outcome: SB wins $28. </font>

pterodactyl_ 10-11-2007 09:11 PM

Re: NL25 two KK hands from same session - opinions?
 
You could have avoided the difficult situation you found yourself in in hand 1 by raising PF though occasionally going for a l/rr is ok. This would be very read dependent for me. Againt an unknown I'm not too crazy about stacking off here. If you know hes a donk or know him to be overaggressive with draws then I dont mind stacking off.

Hand 2 is so mind numbingly standard.

nycplayer 10-11-2007 09:17 PM

Re: NL25 two KK hands from same session - opinions?
 
i'm still in the same session: someone else just got KK and stacked off to my 2pr, so maybe there is a god.

SABR42 10-11-2007 09:17 PM

Re: NL25 two KK hands from same session - opinions?
 
Hand 1: fold to the flop re-raise. When your limp-re-raise backfires, you have to be cautious about going broke unimproved in a limped pot.

Hand 2: zzzz... standard.

nycplayer 10-11-2007 09:25 PM

Re: NL25 two KK hands from same session - opinions?
 
After the LRR didn't work out, there were so many possible scare cards that could come on the turn, that calling can't possibly be right, and I don't think I can fold KK there.. so I thought the shove was best.
What would you have done?

nycplayer 10-11-2007 09:28 PM

Re: NL25 two KK hands from same session - opinions?
 
You really fold there? Aren't you folding to KQ, QJ, QT a lot of the time? I see people reraising there with a lot of crap. Maybe that's because I'm stealing a lot.

SABR42 10-11-2007 09:31 PM

Re: NL25 two KK hands from same session - opinions?
 
[ QUOTE ]
You really fold there? Aren't you folding to KQ, QJ, QT a lot of the time? I see people reraising there with a lot of crap. Maybe that's because I'm stealing a lot.

[/ QUOTE ]
You're rarely a big favorite there. People don't 3-bet with top pair (no redraw) in limped pots unless they are the biggest of donks.

If you had RAISED pre-flop, that would have been a different story.

nycplayer 10-11-2007 09:38 PM

Re: NL25 two KK hands from same session - opinions?
 
in looking at the hand again, I think you are right. The weak lead, small reraise should have set off my spidey sense that someone was trying to bleed me.
Oh well. Live &amp; learn.


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