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NoahSD 05-06-2007 01:09 PM

(215 Warm-Up) Lol Slowplayaments
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t9775)
MP3 (t9900)
CO (t10050)
Button (t9750)
SB (t10525)
BB (t9850)
UTG (t10500)
Hero (t10025)
MP1 (t9125)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t100</font>, Hero calls t100, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t100, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls t75, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t250</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls t150, MP3 calls t150, SB calls t150.

Flop: (t1100) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t400</font>, Hero calls t400

grafyx 05-06-2007 01:22 PM

Re: (215 Warm-Up) Lol Slowplayaments
 
why?

Bakes 05-06-2007 01:24 PM

Re: (215 Warm-Up) Lol Slowplayaments
 
why not?

edit - it really does look like he has KK, but i think you have to play it fast on the turn for sure. lolo AA if he has it

shaundeeb 05-06-2007 01:26 PM

Re: (215 Warm-Up) Lol Slowplayaments
 
I hate it because a lot of gutterball hands to the nuts will peel and thus you had 24 turn cards plus diamonds etc. Raise Raise Raise.

NoahSD 05-06-2007 01:27 PM

Re: (215 Warm-Up) Lol Slowplayaments
 
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why?

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I think his range preflop is mostly QQ+ with a little bit of JJ/AK plus some random crap. The only one of those hands I really wanna be raising against is AK.

grafyx 05-06-2007 01:33 PM

Re: (215 Warm-Up) Lol Slowplayaments
 
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why?

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I think his range preflop is mostly QQ+ with a little bit of JJ/AK plus some random crap. The only one of those hands I really wanna be raising against is AK.

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HU I would agree. But there are still 2 other players in the pot who you are letting draw cheaply.

registrar 05-06-2007 01:39 PM

Re: (215 Warm-Up) Lol Slowplayaments
 
Lol at UTG. I don't like it four way. Why are we expecting anyone to fold an ace, two diamonds or a broadway draw to drop it if we raise here over a gey pfr's gey lead?

FWIW, I'd underraise, but that's entirely consistent with my game because I still don't get the Stars slider.

NoahSD 05-06-2007 01:46 PM

Re: (215 Warm-Up) Lol Slowplayaments
 
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why not?

edit - it really does look like he has KK, but i think you have to play it fast on the turn for sure. lolo AA if he has it

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Yeah.. I agree. With these stacks I think I have to speed up on the turn to make sure to stack AK.

jaroot 05-07-2007 02:35 PM

Re: (215 Warm-Up) Lol Slowplayaments
 
Silly to just call that flop with an A on board. So many turncards are scare-cards for you and them (if they are sitting on Ax) Pop it to 1200 and hope Ax gets jiggy wit it.

betgo 05-07-2007 03:22 PM

Re: (215 Warm-Up) Lol Slowplayaments
 
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why?

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I think his range preflop is mostly QQ+ with a little bit of JJ/AK plus some random crap. The only one of those hands I really wanna be raising against is AK.

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I agree that the reraiser probably has QQ-AA or maybe a weaker reraising hand or some kind of marginal speculative hand. There is a reasonable chance you are drawing to one out, but you are going to bust anyway if he has aces.

However, there are several other players. If you raise, the reraiser may fold his KK, but it is unlikely an ace folds.

What are you hoping for someone to make by slowplaying? You are not waiting for someone to make top pair, so I guess you are slowplaying to let someone make a flush.

If someone has an ace or a flush draw, they are not folding easily. You could get reraised by AK or a flush draw with a pair or gutshot.


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